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The Trump thread.

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Pancho, Jan 30, 2017.

  1. Slippery Jim

    Slippery Jim Striker

    Just say you had no knowledge of the other thread. If people say you posted on the other thread say you were taken out of context. A little later deny you made any posts at all on the other thread. Send a PM to @Roger asking him to delete the posts you never made. Fire Roger when he refuses to do so. If people keep asking questions bomb Newcastle to rally your supporters.
  2. Hulkenburger

    Hulkenburger Central Defender

    Depends if a new Vice President is sworn in. If not, then I believe it goes to the Speaker of the House.
  3. Ryan knows exactly what he's doing. He's waiting this out.
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  4. Hoon

    Hoon Midfield

    There'll be massive internal unrest if it does go tits up. Patriots taking up arms all over the show.
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  5. Hulkenburger

    Hulkenburger Central Defender

    He wouldn't be nearly as radical as Pence or Trump, it would just be old fashioned Republicanism with him.
  6. According to my very brief reading of this:


    The Speaker of the House or failing that leader of the Senate takes over. But apparently it's controversial as some think the law doesn't work or isn't constitutional. But, potentially, Paul Ryan
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  7. Monty Pigeon

    Monty Pigeon Winger

    The recent tape of Ryan joking about Trump's Russian links might prelude him too. Senator Hatch is next in line. Compared to the three above him, a relatively normal human being.
  8. sbtyr

    sbtyr Full Back

    He's stated he misses his old life and thought the job would be easier. You can plainly see how frustrated he is. If he isn't forced out before 2020, I'd be surprised if he decided to run again.

    He's already making moves to gain support according to some media sources in the US; people seem to be disregarding the likelihood of Pence being implicated in any scandal that forces Trump out. Ryan too. Not sure who's next in succession after that.

    Pence oversaw the transition that missed Flynn and obviously would have had to be left in the cold to be unaware of any Russian links. Ryan quotes from recent days aren't great for him either - seemingly trying to prevent leaks of Republican leaders saying the think Putin pays Trump up to a year ago. What a mess.
    Last edited: May 20, 2017
  9. Hulkenburger

    Hulkenburger Central Defender

    From Wikipedia:

    Hatch told students from the University of Utah, "I wouldn't want to see homosexuals teaching school anymore than I'd want to see members of the American Nazi Party teaching school."

    He also views Obamacare as unconstitutional and voted against protecting people's privacy. Seems like a wonderful choice.
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  10. Purrfect South

    Purrfect South Striker

    I read somewhere that it's likely to be Hatch.
  11. lordy

    lordy Striker

    The common element in nearly all the major New York Times and Washington Post stories about President Donald Trump this week is that they are based on source documents the outlets cannot authenticate, do not possess, admit are partial, and refuse to share.

    Friday’s supposed “bombshell” stories follow the same pattern.

    The Times reports that Trump told the visiting Russians that former FBI director James Comey was a “nut job,” and that firing him had eased “pressure” in his ability to conduct foreign policy — though the Times takes Trump to mean the legal pressure of the investigation. (That spin makes no sense: firing Comey created more pressure, which was so obvious the Russians joked about it.)

    The Times describes its source as “a document summarizing the meeting” that was “circulated” (it does not say by whom). The Times does not have the document. An “American official” simply “read quotations” to the Times.

    The Post‘s story, which reports that the probe into potential ties between Russia and the Trump campaign has reached “someone close to the president,” cites “people familiar with the matter.” That does not prove the story is untrue, but the sources are so flimsy that there is no way to have confidence in what the Post calls its “revelation.”

    Earlier this week, the Post reported that House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-CA) told a meeting of fellow House Republican leaders: “I think Putin pays [Trump].” According to those present, the remark was a joke. The Post‘s source was an audio recording of the conversation which it did not have in its actual possession, and which it refuses to share with the public so that people can judge for themselves. The Post did publish a transcript, which it does not appear to have produced itself. The transcript actually supports the claim that McCarthy was joking. The Post‘s reporter has insisted that McCarthy meant his remark to be taken seriously, but refuses to provide the audio.

    And the day before that, the Times published the now-infamous story that Trump had “asked” Comey to end the investigation into former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn. The source was purportedly a memorandum that Comey wrote about his recollection of a conversation with Trump. But the Times did not share the memo, and never even saw the document. It merely relied on a Comey “associate” who “read parts of it to a Times reporter.”

    These four stories, taken together, are said by the mainstream media to build a powerful case that Trump committed obstruction of justice and may soon face impeachment. But every piece of evidence could be made up or distorted, and there would be no way to know. In the “nut job” case, the White House has not disputed that Trump made the comment, but it may not be able to explain the context, because doing so would mean releasing more details of a classified conversation that touched on “highly classified” national security matters (as the Post reported on Monday.)

    In their effort to impugn Trump, the Times and the Post violate the most basic journalistic standards. Publishing parts of a document that you do not possess and cannot verify, and timing the release to cause maximum political damage (right after the president leaves the country), is not investigative journalism. It is political propaganda.

    It is the mirror image of what the Los Angeles Times did in April 2008, when it published a story referring to a speech then-State Senator Barack Obama gave at a farewell celebration for radical Palestinian-American academic Rashid Khalidi in 2003. The Times was given a video of the speech, but refused to publish the video. Instead, it offered a mere summary, raising suspicions that the Times had sanitized the event to protect Obama’s presidential campaign.

    The pattern is the same, from the Khalidi tape to the “nut job” story. For the elite mainstream media, when it comes to protecting Democrats or attacking Republicans, there are no journalistic standards, no ethics, and no shame.

  12. This.

    Batten down the hatches, Trump will want to go out with a bang, and his supporters would defend him without question. Cult leader springs to mind
  13. Tex

    Tex Striker

    In the same way towards the end of the campaign when he was slipping in the polls and he started claiming the election was 'rigged' to make amends for what he thought would be his election loss (prior to the Comey announcement that he was reopening the Hilary file), now he's crying foul and claiming it's all a witch hunt to cover for the possibility of his entire administration going completely tits up. The bloke is so easy to read it's laughable.

    Just go - in the name of god, go!
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  14. Smartprice Bacon

    Smartprice Bacon Full Back

    Eventually they'll twist their arses that much Clinton will end up president basically
  15. Sheldon_Cooper

    Sheldon_Cooper Goalkeeper

    You're 3/4 correct.
  16. MrOompapa

    MrOompapa Striker

    MP could end up with a lot of egg on his face if this doesn't materialise....
  17. If it is eventually proven that the Russians did help the Republicans win the election, how can the whole election be deemed valid?

    I mean we're talking about it being Ryan or Hatch, but it's not Trump in isolation that got elected.
  18. cluffy

    cluffy Striker

    Some Jim Jones action would be good!
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  19. Trump thread this thread.

    I'll believe it when the door hits him on the arse as he makes his exit.

    All it needs is a good war to make him "look" presidential and all bets are off.
  20. Monty Pigeon

    Monty Pigeon Winger

    So not even Breitbart are saying that the stories are untrue, they're just waffling on about unnamed sources (a bit rich when Trump's two favourite sources are 'a lot of people are saying...' and 'I'm hearing...') and speculating without evidence that the White House's affirmation on the 'nut job' story is limited by the conversation being 'classified'.

    Is Comey an unnamed source? https://www.bloomberg.com/view/arti...hould-worry-comey-memo-describes-a-high-crime
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