The time has come for football to start asking some difficult questions about remembrance

Bamber

Winger
Maybe next year we should just have someone say “Cheers Lads” and that will be our tribute the the fallen :rolleyes:

Cant get any criticism for being ostentatious then.
 
Is that news paper taking the piss? Just because they are oversized poppies and people dressed up does not take away from the fact all the clubs involved are supporting those who have fallen and served, what do they want clubs to do? Remember those pictures from Liverpool would be going all over the world yesterday, what do the independent paper want clubs to do?
 

Zak's Dad

Midfield
Lefties in being disrespectful shocker.
Scoring political points off the back of a newspaper article about the symbolism of the poppy is (I think?) exactly what the writer is highlighting as an issue.

The Independent is hardly left wing, but don't let that get in the way of attacking the supposed political stance rather than engaging with what they're saying.
 

PS

Striker
Now that the 100th anniversary of 1918 has been and gone, I think we should celebrate it on the nearest Sunday and leave it at that. Today's observation was redundant, and also ironic, as the French pushed for the ceasefire to go back to 11:00 rather than 6:00 or 7;00 as it would be more 'memorable' - and thousands more died
 

safccfas

Midfield
Is that news paper taking the piss? Just because they are oversized poppies and people dressed up does not take away from the fact all the clubs involved are supporting those who have fallen and served, what do they want clubs to do? Remember those pictures from Liverpool would be going all over the world yesterday, what do the independent paper want clubs to do?
Don’t forget most of these clubs will have lost players during the wars and 100’s / 1000’s of fans
 
What was wrong with a minute or two minute silence each season?

Now we have clubs flogging "limited edition" poppy shirts and some people (generally, not just in football) trying their best to outdo each other in how much they respect the fallen.

Quietly showing respect means so much more to vets and serving soldiers than buying a git big poppy or arguing why someone doesn't have one on their shirt
 

Steve H

Winger
The 'poppy mafia', potentially dangerous.
I remember a couple of seasons ago, North Shields put out an email informing the supporters that any player who did not wear a poppy, would be fined, what nonsense.I think this is probably typical of modern football
Lots of my relatives fought in both world wars, one of the things I presume they fought for was to live in a society where there would be freedom of choice, seems as if there is very little choice for certain people, difficult to escape the 'poppy mafia'.
If people wish to wear a poppy, that is there choice, they should not feel presure to do so.
 

Kumbuka

Full Back
Out of interest, what was the protocol with the closest home match to Remembrance Sunday in say the 1980s at Roker Park?
 
What was wrong with a minute or two minute silence each season?

Now we have clubs flogging "limited edition" poppy shirts and some people (generally, not just in football) trying their best to outdo each other in how much they respect the fallen.

Quietly showing respect means so much more to vets and serving soldiers than buying a git big poppy or arguing why someone doesn't have one on their shirt
I don’t buy a poppy and never have, it I don’t see what’s wrong with going over the top if the money is going to the correct places
 
What was wrong with a minute or two minute silence each season?

Now we have clubs flogging "limited edition" poppy shirts and some people (generally, not just in football) trying their best to outdo each other in how much they respect the fallen.

Quietly showing respect means so much more to vets and serving soldiers than buying a git big poppy or arguing why someone doesn't have one on their shirt
I totally agree with this.

I have family in the forces, friends in there who've lost best mates, i've volunteered on events with Help for Heroes and met some really amazing people but i tend not to wear a poppy or donate to this cause - mainly (but not only) because i'm more closely involved with fundraising for other causes (including homeless work) and have been slated by friends of friends aggressively in pubs in the last week cos they have a poppy on and i won't. Its getting out of hand.

I am a bit uncomfortable with the war thing - some wars are justified some it feels like we're fighting for government policy not the benefit of the country and i don't feel right about it cos it affects everyday people's lives here and overseas - but i'm more than happy for others to disagree and get involved if they think differently like many do and i totally respect people that fight for what they believe in. I don't rant at others for not doing the stuff i do. I especially genuinely feel for those who've lost mates and seen difficult things cos i can see how its affected them. Is that disrespectful or leftie ? I don't feel like it is but i'm sure i'll get pelters.
 

Larza

Midfield
Not sure about then, but before that in the 60s and 70s, there wasn't anything. Remembrance then was for Remembrance Sunday, simple as that.
Although the younger generation probably won’t believe it they never used to be a game on a Sunday, now it’s common place. If one of the early televised matches fell on Remembrance Sunday it would have been appropriate to have the silence and I guess it has just escalated from there, not a bad thing mind as I find it touching every year.
 

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