chriswallace85
Striker
IMDB lists The Shawshank Redemption as the best film ever. It cannot be taken seriously.
The Super spoilery Star Wars : The Last Jedi spoilers thread *don't even put your mouse over it*
Dave Herbal
Striker
Unfortunately Chris, anything which considers the opinion of a large number of people is generally considered more accurate than the rantings of a couple of loons on a football message board.
Chappers
Striker
Of course if was and people forget that it's aimed at kids as were the orignals. We have the orignals from our childhood and kids now are getting these. My son loves them.I can’t believe how many are hating on itthe shitty casino bit aside it was everything a Star Wars movie should be
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SAFC Wilks
Striker
If you mean the film as a whole, I'd argue Leia being able to fly wasn't predictable mind.
Before leaving the Falcon Rey tells Chewie to get out of range and wait for her signal and meet at the rendezvous point.
When REN comes around he asks what happened to the girl, huh says she took Snokes escape Pod. So I guess they covered it.
When REN comes around he asks what happened to the girl, huh says she took Snokes escape Pod. So I guess they covered it.
chriswallace85
Striker
Utter nonsense.
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The Exile
Guest
As soon as Fisher died they should have been rejigging the story to keep Luke for the third film.
These people will be impossible to please mind, there is probably nothing they could do to make a perfect Star Wars film in their eyes. The truth is, the original trilogy is overrated. All 8 are much of a muchness tbh.
MunkyHeed
Striker
This is the problem. Some 'proper' Star wars fans want to feel like they're 8 years old again. Ep 7 delivered this, but everyone moaned that it was just a re-hash of Ep 4. This one adds new dynamics, now people are moaning that it doesn't stay true to the canon.
There was several guff bits, I agree. Leia flying when 'dead' was the main one. Yeah she should have died there, but I guess they needed to have the reunion with Luke towards the end. The casino felt too Earth like, and DelToro's character should have been Lando Calrissian, but the SFX (the scene where Fin gets caught in the huge hanger bay with all the TIE fighters & AT-AT's... oof!) and battle-for-survival storyline, rather than the standard goodies-win-in-the-end made it feel more Empire Strikes Back-like than any others.
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crombie88
Guest
I liked the last Jedi and force awakens but the problem with both of these films is so much of them is just copied from the original trilogy which means they’ll never be anywhere close to the originals
Even though it will not happen I would like George Lucas back for episode 9 in some capacity it’s the only way we’ll get a original story
Even though it will not happen I would like George Lucas back for episode 9 in some capacity it’s the only way we’ll get a original story
chriswallace85
Striker
What a load of bollocks.
And it's nothing to do with wanting to feel 8 again. It's about seeing a Star Wars film that's faithful in spirit to the originals. A Star Wars film that is inescapably Star Wars. Watching this latest one was like watching a Pirates of the Caribbean meets Harry Potter crossover in space. Comparing it to anything like The Empire Strikes Back is insulting to The Empire Strikes Back.
There was a lot of twisting about Indiana Jones 4 but at least it felt like an Indiana Jones film. Let's just hope Disney never get their hands on that franchise.
It's a lost cause now marra.
Dave Herbal
Striker
Joe-B
Striker
Was about to turn to my mate in the cinema and go "That Ship looks like a f***ing Iron" and then It was
6 if it was shown in the tokyo dome.
6 if it was shown in the tokyo dome.
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Dave Herbal
Striker
It doesn’t matter how loud you can shout that you hate it, the fact remains that millions of people will love it and I’m willing to bet any of my major limbs that they will be in the majority. I bet you went wanting to hate it.
How you can deny the Empire comparison, I don’t know. It’s there for all to see.
Fred Army
Striker
I enjoyed it for the most part, but some things really pissed me off.
Firstly, every scene with Snoke in took me straight out of the film: why the fuck did he have to be a CGI character? He looked so out of place against the live action characters that it spoiled it for me.
Secondly: why not kill Leia off when the opportunity presented itself perfectly? I was sitting there thinking "yeah, that's a good dramatic way for her to go" then suddenly her eyes open and she floats through space like Mary Poppins! Shite! Again, ruined what would have been a great moment.
That whole Casino scene followed by the "horse"back chase was way too Phantom Menace for me and should have been cut entirely.
Didn't like the cheesy end sequence either with the kid looking up to the sky.
It had loads of good stuff in it but could have been so much better.
I didn't mind the Porgs actually, despite their obvious, CGIness, thought they'd be far more irritating.
Firstly, every scene with Snoke in took me straight out of the film: why the fuck did he have to be a CGI character? He looked so out of place against the live action characters that it spoiled it for me.
Secondly: why not kill Leia off when the opportunity presented itself perfectly? I was sitting there thinking "yeah, that's a good dramatic way for her to go" then suddenly her eyes open and she floats through space like Mary Poppins! Shite! Again, ruined what would have been a great moment.
That whole Casino scene followed by the "horse"back chase was way too Phantom Menace for me and should have been cut entirely.
Didn't like the cheesy end sequence either with the kid looking up to the sky.
It had loads of good stuff in it but could have been so much better.
I didn't mind the Porgs actually, despite their obvious, CGIness, thought they'd be far more irritating.
Mackem Al
Midfield
You're absolutely right. It was nothing like Empire at all. In fact, its nothing like Star Wars at all really. These two films (TFA and TLJ) are essentially just stand alone sci-fi films in the same vein as Battlestar Galactica, Star Trek and Star Wars. The old SW characters have only been picked up and put into this new series because without them they wont make any money without them and trying to sell a new film with only new characters. If they want to focus on new characters then just crack on with a new sci-fi franchisees and leave Star Wars alone. New films for the current generation is fair enough but brand it as a completely new franchise for the new generation to own like we had star wars. Don't pick up Star Wars, kill everything that kids from the 70s and 80s hold dear just to a) give the new generation something and b) line Disneys pockets. It stinks.
Disney bought Lucasfilm so own the intellectual property of Indiana Jones, however if a new film was made Paramount own the distribution rights.
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The Exile
Guest
I thought there was far more of Return Of The Jedi in it than Empire tbh. There's only really that battle at the end from Empire. The whole secret mission at the same time as going to face the big bad guy is lifted almost wholesale.
I didn't hate it, there was enough to keep me fairly content, but there are so many missed opportunities in there for me. Now due to Fishers death we don't really have anywhere obvious to go story wise. Snoke dead, Phasma gone, Luke & Leia gone, too many pieces taken off the table for too little reward.
To be fair I really think they got Rogue One spot on...both because it isn't full of existing characters and because it didn't feel like a cash in even though it was.
Solo for instance is a massive cash in. Maybe Rian Johnson's new trilogy "set in a different part of space" will be better-although why it has to be branded star wars is beyond me.
