Deano
Striker
You're answering points I didn't even make there. And Hamill is not the problem with this film. Johnson is. Almost entirely so.
The Super spoilery Star Wars : The Last Jedi spoilers thread *don't even put your mouse over it*
MunkyHeed
Striker
CraigyLee
Striker
What a load of shite that article is mind
The Force Awakens and Last Jedi are contradictions to each other on major plot points
Don’t mind twists but they have to be well thought out not cheap swerves
Snoke and Reys parents are massive issues that hang over an entertaining action film
Hopefully episode 9 makes this film better but I have about as much hope as the galaxy had with the resistance
Dave Herbal
Striker
Rey’s parents = maguffin
CraigyLee
Striker
And how she pulling off force shit with no prior knowledge like she did in episode 7
At least there was a gap between A New Hope and Empire when Luke was using the force to pull the lightsaber from the ice
Episode 7 she’s pulling shit she’s mind tricking people blocking out a trained force user
Episode 8 she’s being taught how to do this and we get that horrific reach out joke
No sense and a massive logic jump from what we have seen in the prior films
Malloy
Winger
If he's not carefull he'll fall to the dark side that'un
Sounds like that inner angry 8 year old needs a hug there mate.
Deano
Striker
He's right though. When he says
Sounds like that inner angry 8 year old needs a hug there mate.
Nail. Heed. Hammer.
errant
Striker
Why does she need to? Perhaps, Luke was the shitest jedi in the galaxy, got lucky hooking up with his sister & bf...
Even the stable hand at the end could pickup the brush without any training...
chriswallace85
Striker
I think the point they're trying to make with Rey's parents and that kid with the rebel ring who picked his brush up with the force is that anyone can be a Jedi. And that'll lead on to Johnson's non-Skywalker trilogy.
Dave Herbal
Striker
Tbf that’s not Rian’s fault. JJ made her super force enabled in TFA , so she could hardly regress in TLJ could she? Anakin was born fully forced up in TPM - podracing etc. Some people are just born that way. Midichlorians, remember?
Pirates of the Caribbean?
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The Exile
Guest
Much better on a second viewing plus a few more kids in the audience.
I think Hamill might get an Oscar nomination, along the lines of Johnny Depp in Pirates Of The Caribbean.
Luke mugs Kylo right off like
Hux is the worst General in Empire/First Order history. He's like the young twat who couldn't lead a raid on the fridge but is good at the admin so gets promoted way above his capabilities.
I think Cabbage's link sums it up nicely. Star Wars needs to evolve and grow.
I think Hamill might get an Oscar nomination, along the lines of Johnny Depp in Pirates Of The Caribbean.
Luke mugs Kylo right off like
Hux is the worst General in Empire/First Order history. He's like the young twat who couldn't lead a raid on the fridge but is good at the admin so gets promoted way above his capabilities.
I think Cabbage's link sums it up nicely. Star Wars needs to evolve and grow.
Deano
Striker
Oh no... you could be right... and down the pan the entire thing goes.
JJ was a Star Wars nut who understood the universe. Johnson clearly doesn't.
I have no problem with Star Wars needing to evolve and grow. That isn't the problem with this film. There are however thousands of others.
The plot being the main one. For those that are saying this is a good film, go on then - defend that plot.
woodlebert
Striker
How so?
Watched it last night.
Far too long. Casino/Finn/Rose wa spointless and added fuck all to the story. Take that piece out and nothing changes. Suspect it’s only in because Benny del Toro will be in Ep9 and they needed to introduce him.
I kept thinking “oh this is a good way to end the film” when Dern smashes the ship, or when Luke died, etc but no there was always another hour, half hour to go. Far too long. I had CGI action fatigue by the end of it.
Couple of lovely scenes in it: the bit where Ren and Rey went back to back and started fighting the guards seriously gave me goose bumps. Thought that was going to be the start of a really interesting character development between the two of them - neither good nor evil, a bit of both. But then they just defaulted back to black and white. Disappointing.
I wonder how far into the editing they were when Fisher died, I’m sure by must have gone back and thought how can we kill her off here, but it was probably too late. Will be interesting to see how it’s dealt with. I do like the thought that the next film will be all about the new generation, especially with the little kid with the broom symbolising an untapped Jedi mass out there waiting to become rebels.
Generally ok. Didn’t mind the comedy. Glad it wasn’t just a ESB rehash. Not as good as TFA but then TFA was just a film that made me feel 7 again and this one was always going to be held to more scrutiny. Do love the new mix of diverse characters though and more women in strong roles.
Should have been about an hour shorter.
Far too long. Casino/Finn/Rose wa spointless and added fuck all to the story. Take that piece out and nothing changes. Suspect it’s only in because Benny del Toro will be in Ep9 and they needed to introduce him.
I kept thinking “oh this is a good way to end the film” when Dern smashes the ship, or when Luke died, etc but no there was always another hour, half hour to go. Far too long. I had CGI action fatigue by the end of it.
Couple of lovely scenes in it: the bit where Ren and Rey went back to back and started fighting the guards seriously gave me goose bumps. Thought that was going to be the start of a really interesting character development between the two of them - neither good nor evil, a bit of both. But then they just defaulted back to black and white. Disappointing.
I wonder how far into the editing they were when Fisher died, I’m sure by must have gone back and thought how can we kill her off here, but it was probably too late. Will be interesting to see how it’s dealt with. I do like the thought that the next film will be all about the new generation, especially with the little kid with the broom symbolising an untapped Jedi mass out there waiting to become rebels.
Generally ok. Didn’t mind the comedy. Glad it wasn’t just a ESB rehash. Not as good as TFA but then TFA was just a film that made me feel 7 again and this one was always going to be held to more scrutiny. Do love the new mix of diverse characters though and more women in strong roles.
Should have been about an hour shorter.
1more
Striker
Nail on the head here.
I enjoyed it, thought it was a decent film. My 13 year old daughter said it was the best Star Wars film she has seen.
I avoided all trailers and hadn't read anything to do with the plot and was really excited to see the film.
I left feeling slightly disappointed and without the buzz that TFA gave me, but my 15 year old thought it was the best film in the whole series.
On reflection I've realised that despite saying I hoped it wasn't a rehash of Empire, that was exactly what I wanted it to be. I wanted to be a bairn again and I wanted to see my hero from being 5 years old come back and save the day with his lightsabre cutting through the baddies.
The whole film had a scene setting vibe to me and whilst it wasn't perfect and yes there were some daft bits, I think it will get better on viewing without the Luke Skywalker expectations.
I left feeling slightly disappointed and without the buzz that TFA gave me, but my 15 year old thought it was the best film in the whole series.
On reflection I've realised that despite saying I hoped it wasn't a rehash of Empire, that was exactly what I wanted it to be. I wanted to be a bairn again and I wanted to see my hero from being 5 years old come back and save the day with his lightsabre cutting through the baddies.
The whole film had a scene setting vibe to me and whilst it wasn't perfect and yes there were some daft bits, I think it will get better on viewing without the Luke Skywalker expectations.
Sounds like Abrams had his LOST hat on when he created some of the characters
Dave Herbal
Striker
When she mind tricks Daniel Craig with no training.
@muxMuch better on a second viewing plus a few more kids in the audience.
I think Hamill might get an Oscar nomination, along the lines of Johnny Depp in Pirates Of The Caribbean.
Luke mugs Kylo right off like
Hux is the worst General in Empire/First Order history. He's like the young twat who couldn't lead a raid on the fridge but is good at the admin so gets promoted way above his capabilities.
I think Cabbage's link sums it up nicely. Star Wars needs to evolve and grow.
It’s a great plot
It was way better than TFA man
And here we have the point the whole thread keeps missing. Ask kids for their reviews.
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