The Summer rebuild.


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IMHO, and I welcome any pellets!

It’s time to lose McGeady, Maguire, Leadbitter, McLaughlin, Wright even possibly Gooch and Burge.

Build our team around our future, that is Patterson, Younger, Hume, O’Nien, Neil, Diamond, Embleton hopefully with Sanderson back and a few more new experienced heads.

We could safely quadruple the wages of all of our kids from the salaries of just one or two of our senior (hopefully departing) players, now out of contract.

It’s time for them to go.

Invest in our own future and let’s not waste any more youth team investment as we have recently wit the likes of Greenwood and Maja.

Move on and develop. The loan market is also so important as not only Lincoln have proved.

Imagine where we would have been without Dion Sanderson? Mid table!
 
There was a list of all L1 players out of contract. When I’ve seen Graham of Gillingham, he appears to have it is own way in the final third. A forceful player who can score, has pace and strength.

Gills fans believe he is destined for the Championship. This is the kind of player we need . Fraser at MK Dons must have his price . Yates at Blackpool is on £1500 a week.

Blackpool have high pressed against lesser sides and sat in to play on the counter vs the likes of us. We have to be adaptable too.

If Blackpool fail to go up I think Yates would be a good acquisition. Unfortunately Blackpool hold all the cards....hes contracted to 2023 with the club having a further years option. They'd fleece us if we went for him.
 
Those who think the club are changing how they do things and those that think LJ deserves more time seem to be basing their suppositions on starting next season with a high press, younger and more athletic team with pace and energy. I don't think any fan would disagree with this aim but just how realistic is it?

From the snippets we've been fed there's a suggestion that the wage budget will be lower. There was also the statement by Johnson that there are players the club want to retain but can't afford to. If most clubs are using the data driven approach why would we get better results than them looking at the same data. In my opinion next season will see L1 stronger than any of our seasons down here. I'd expect Sheff Wed to mount a strong promotion push, Rotherham seem to be too good for L1 but not quite good enough for the Championship. Throw in Pompey, Ipswich, Charlton and the loser of the play off final and the top two places may take some achieving.

Question for those not as sceptical as I am but what makes you convinced that we can put a league winning team together from scratch with a reduced wage budget.
I would say it’s highly unlikely. Not convinced by this stats method either. Most of the best players I have i could see the potential pretty quickly. it’s fashion.
 
IMHO, and I welcome any pellets!

It’s time to lose McGeady, Maguire, Leadbitter, McLaughlin, Wright even possibly Gooch and Burge.

Build our team around our future, that is Patterson, Younger, Hume, O’Nien, Neil, Diamond, Embleton hopefully with Sanderson back and a few more new experienced heads.

We could safely quadruple the wages of all of our kids from the salaries of just one or two of our senior (hopefully departing) players, now out of contract.

It’s time for them to go.

Invest in our own future and let’s not waste any more youth team investment as we have recently wit the likes of Greenwood and Maja.

Move on and develop. The loan market is also so important as not only Lincoln have proved.

Imagine where we would have been without Dion Sanderson? Mid table!
So many kids, how long to learn their trade?
 
So many kids, how long to learn their trade?
They should have had way more opportunities the last few seasons to already learn. The checkatrade should be used for this alone, especially moving forward.

If we want to get the best out of them they need to play and learn on the pitch as well as just in training, they need consistent runs to get the best out of them.

Of course you need experienced players as well but we've had a team full of them for years now and they haven't done the job. Need to get a better balance but yeah, you can't just throw them all in off the bat.
 
I would say it’s highly unlikely. Not convinced by this stats method either. Most of the best players I have i could see the potential pretty quickly. it’s fashion.

I can see how it works with the real top clubs in world football. When players cost upwards of £50m you need to know everything about them and how they're predicted to fit into the system. Can you really apply that logic in the same way looking at 100 out of contract journeymen.

I still think that at this level a traditional manager who knows his market and has the ability to galvanise a team is as good a system as any. Nowt wrong with developing the kids alongside that and looking to upgrade on your "utilitarian" manager once he's achieved the first target.
 
IMHO, and I welcome any pellets!

It’s time to lose McGeady, Maguire, Leadbitter, McLaughlin, Wright even possibly Gooch and Burge.

Build our team around our future, that is Patterson, Younger, Hume, O’Nien, Neil, Diamond, Embleton hopefully with Sanderson back and a few more new experienced heads.

We could safely quadruple the wages of all of our kids from the salaries of just one or two of our senior (hopefully departing) players, now out of contract.

It’s time for them to go.

Invest in our own future and let’s not waste any more youth team investment as we have recently wit the likes of Greenwood and Maja.

Move on and develop. The loan market is also so important as not only Lincoln have proved.

Imagine where we would have been without Dion Sanderson? Mid table!
 
A computer can pick up stuff that the human eye can't. Capturing data on a player across multiple games - even multiple seasons - isn't possible with traditional scouting

As I said on an earlier post marra I can understand that approach when mistakes can cost you multi millions but when your market is 100 out of contract journeymen surely it would take half a dozen blokes with a few pizzas and a dvd player about 2 days to discuss and analyse them. If its kids from Europe or further afield then indeed you will need full data analysis but haway what can data tell you about Charlie Wyke that watching him a few times wouldn't. You know he's slow, you know he's not a target man and can't really play with his back to goal and you know that if you don't get crosses in he's largely ineffective....and most of those on that "selling platers" list are similarly exposed.
 
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As I said on an earlier post marra I can understand that approach when mistakes can cost you multi millions but when your market is 100 out of contract journeymen surely it would take half a dozen blokes with a few pizzas and a dvd player about 2 days to discuss and analyse them. If its kids from Europe or further afield then indeed you will need full data analysis but haway what can data tell you about Charlie Wyke that watching him a few times wouldn't. You know he's slow, you know he's not a target man and can't really play with his back to goal and you know that if you don't get crosses in he's largely ineffective....and most of those on that "selling platers" list are similarly exposed.
Data is data is data, marra. It's available miles down into the pyramid. Finding players who do certain things better than others is always an advantage - regardless of where you are operating. All that changes is the money you spend. The principle remains the same. Identify the players who will do what you need them to do better than others and have a better success rate so that the clubs money goes further.
 
Ah, the return of the 'high press'. Can we not just set up to defend and attack and hopefully have players with the ability to pass to a team-mate?
 
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