The stewarding and arrangents for away supporters at Stoke


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No. Only the sickest lowlife would try and blame the victims for the disaster.

You don't see the irony in refusing to budge on blaming the fans for it, while posting a thread that explicitly points out how poor ground design and shite policing/ stewarding can cause overcrowding issues?
Stop being so sanctimonious any football fan that went to away games in the late 80s knows where Reiver is coming from. It doesn't make him a sick lowlife.
 
I'll answer all of that in good time when people have stopped being hysterical and jumping on the 'moral bandwagon'.

The trouble on there is that there are too many people screaming insults, and firing off bad language, to anyone with a different point of view.

They're so stuck in their entrenched opinions that they just shout without thinking.

I'll be back on there, when I'm ready, but if you hadn't noticed this is a different thread.

Don't be like Haway and appear obsessed with me and just ignore the thread subject .........

From me on the Hillsborough thread,

"I can assure you that if affects me the same way and I feel just as deeply about the victims and their families.

I'm a football supporter and have had a few close shaves, on my own and with my 3 sons, so but for the grace of God, etc.

Apart from that brief post I'll keep off this thread, out of respect, until this all becomes a little less raw."

You can pretend that it affects you deeply, you're really upset about it etc. Crocodile tears, nothing more.

If you really cared deeply you wouldn't have slandered them.

But keep pretending that you didn't have a horrific agenda against the victims of Hillsborough for years.
 
Stop being so santimonious any football fan that went to away games in the late 80s knows where Reiver is coming from. It doesn't make him a sick lowlife.

Do they? Because I've seen loads of posters (and know loads of people in real life) who were going to games pre-1989 and they think its outrageous to try and blame the Liverpool fans for it?
 
Stop being so santimonious any football fan that went to away games in the late 80s knows where Reiver is coming from. It doesn't make him a sick lowlife.

He doesn't even go now mate ....... he jumped on the AJ thread for weeks, 24/7, and has now decided it's Hillsborough.

In truth he couldn't care less about the 15 year old child or the 96, it's just a sick point scoring internet troll game to him.
 
He doesn't even go now mate ....... he jumped on the AJ thread for weeks, 24/7, and has now decided it's Hillsborough.

In truth he couldn't care less about the 15 year old child or the 96, it's just a sick point scoring internet troll game to him.
Hang on is he a nonce defender?
 
Do they? Because I've seen loads of posters (and know loads of people in real life) who were going to games pre-1989 and they think its outrageous to try and blame the Liverpool fans for it?
Keep on being outraged then & over sensitive. It was a combination of many factors. If you think no drunk Liverpool fans who had no legal right to be inside the ground turned up late and got in without tickets & contributed to the awful crush then you're living in cloud cuckoo land.
 
Ha ha - it's paving the way for a classic "When I was a lad" stories. It ended a lot better than it looked like it was going to. So.....Watford by train, bus or what? :lol::lol:
Aye would have been a few "I paid f***ing how much for this" thoughts on the way back. Train to watford mate, there and back in a day. All my holdays are booked in through the year, so at work the Monday after it. Will just have to not drinking after the match, as I couldn't imagine going to work with how I felt this morning.
 
He doesn't even go now mate ....... he jumped on the AJ thread for weeks, 24/7, and has now decided it's Hillsborough.

In truth he couldn't care less about the 15 year old child or the 96, it's just a sick point scoring internet troll game to him.
Spot on mate the fella always finds something to be outraged by.
 
Do they? Because I've seen loads of posters (and know loads of people in real life) who were going to games pre-1989 and they think its outrageous to try and blame the Liverpool fans for it?

I've never blamed the Liverpool supporters for it.

Anyway, you still haven't had the guts to answer this #120 ....... come on bigmouth, back up what you're saying.

Haway: Why is it disrespectful to the families of the deceased to call you out on your bullshit victim blaming?

Reiver: "I have never ever blamed the victims."


"Prove I have and I'll promise, here and now, that I'll never post on here ever again.

There's your challenge you pompous little scrote ........... come on, prove your accusations and I'm gone for good.

If you can't I'm sure you'll be back with some backtracking squirming shite as usual."

Hang on is he a nonce defender?

It depends on the nonce tbh.

Apparently juries are never wrong but the one who convicted Ched Evans who's now innocent are irrelevant.

I suppose it just depends on the luck of the draw and which jury you get ......... he may be guilty or innocent at the retrial.

The first one scrutinised all the evidence and decided to lock him up ......... the next might give him compo :rolleyes:
 
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You can pretend that it affects you deeply, you're really upset about it etc. Crocodile tears, nothing more.

If you really cared deeply you wouldn't have slandered them.

But keep pretending that you didn't have a horrific agenda against the victims of Hillsborough for years.
Unless you have met @Reiver I think you mean libel. Such a basic ignorance of legal terms speaks volumes.
 
Can we please keep this thread on topic lads.

It gets a bit confusing for members who tune in expecting a conversation about yesterday's match

I'm sure there will be ample opportunities in future to discuss Hillsborough on relevant threads.
 
I've never blamed the Liverpool supporters for it.

Anyway, you still haven't had the guts to answer this #120 ....... come on bigmouth, back up what you're saying.

Haway: Why is it disrespectful to the families of the deceased to call you out on your bullshit victim blaming?

Reiver: "I have never ever blamed the victims."


"Prove I have and I'll promise, here and now, that I'll never post on here ever again.

There's your challenge you pompous little scrote ........... come on, prove your accusations and I'm gone for good.

If you can't I'm sure you'll be back with some backtracking squirming shite as usual."



It depends on the nonce tbh.

Apparently juries are never wrong but the one who convicted Ched Evans who's now innocent are irrelevant.

I suppose it just depends on the luck of the draw and which jury you get ......... he may be guilty or innocent at the retrial.

The first one scrutinised all the evidence and decided to lock him up ......... the next might give him compo :rolleyes:
Presumably Rotherham type nonces are fine in his book?
 
Can we please keep this thread on topic lads.

It gets a bit confusing for members who tune in expecting a conversation about yesterday's match

I'm sure there will be ample opportunities in future to discuss Hillsborough on relevant threads.
That should be directed specifically rather than generaly.
 
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