The Staircase - Netflix

Hulkster

Striker
Anyone watching this?

Thought it was excellent.

Relatively high profile author charged with murder after he found his wife covered in blood at the bottom of the stairs.

He called 911 and said she'd fallen. His defence in court was that she'd fallen.

For me, there is absolutely no way that those injuries were sustained from falling down the stairs, his defence was implausible. At the same time, the investigation was completely crooked, the forensics were obtained in crooked and incompetent manner, prosecution witnesses clearly lied in court, so there's simply no way he had a fair trial.

Interesting questions then about should someone who seems to be guilty but who hasn't had a fair trial be convicted anyway, or acquitted? For me I'd rather see a guilty person go free than allow an approach that sets out to frame people whether they are guilty or not.

Bizarre as it sounds, I think the theory that emerged later that she was attacked and killed by an owl is actually more plausible than the explanation she just fell down the stairs!
 


safcforever

Striker
Anyone watching this?

Thought it was excellent.

Relatively high profile author charged with murder after he found his wife covered in blood at the bottom of the stairs.

He called 911 and said she'd fallen. His defence in court was that she'd fallen.

For me, there is absolutely no way that those injuries were sustained from falling down the stairs, his defence was implausible. At the same time, the investigation was completely crooked, the forensics were obtained in crooked and incompetent manner, prosecution witnesses clearly lied in court, so there's simply no way he had a fair trial.

Interesting questions then about should someone who seems to be guilty but who hasn't had a fair trial be convicted anyway, or acquitted? For me I'd rather see a guilty person go free than allow an approach that sets out to frame people whether they are guilty or not.

Bizarre as it sounds, I think the theory that emerged later that she was attacked and killed by an owl is actually more plausible than the explanation she just fell down the stairs!
the bit where his ex ended up deed the same way was a f***ing shock. Also the weapon turning up years later “untouched” all sus as fuck
 

safc9450

Midfield
Third version of this story. Watched a documentary while i lived in the US.A movie was then released in 2007 with Treat Williams .His other woman in his life had died while being found at bottom stairs.Elizabeth Ratliff's death was deemed a homicide once body was exhumed.The chances of 2 women that you know falling /dying down fight of stairs is ? Guilty as charged !
 
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WillInSpain

Subs Bench
Anyone watching this?

Thought it was excellent.

Relatively high profile author charged with murder after he found his wife covered in blood at the bottom of the stairs.

He called 911 and said she'd fallen. His defence in court was that she'd fallen.

For me, there is absolutely no way that those injuries were sustained from falling down the stairs, his defence was implausible. At the same time, the investigation was completely crooked, the forensics were obtained in crooked and incompetent manner, prosecution witnesses clearly lied in court, so there's simply no way he had a fair trial.

Interesting questions then about should someone who seems to be guilty but who hasn't had a fair trial be convicted anyway, or acquitted? For me I'd rather see a guilty person go free than allow an approach that sets out to frame people whether they are guilty or not.

Bizarre as it sounds, I think the theory that emerged later that she was attacked and killed by an owl is actually more plausible than the explanation she just fell down the stairs!
This is so close to home for me.
My Aunt was suffering from memory loss (according to my uncle) and living with an allegedly abusive partner, my dad was told on many occasions about how she just "fell", he wanted to rip my uncles head off but my aunt always intervened.
Then the news came she'd fallen down the stairs and died as a result of head injuries.
There was no proof, there was no evidence, just suspicion.
I can't say anymore.
Said uncle has passed away now.
 

McMackem

Fitness Coach
Staff member
I could be well wide of the mark, but 'local' police seem to have way to much independence and lack of control in parts of the States. Just as in 'Making of a Murderer', with 'Staircase' and countless others you get the strong feeling that they act as instant judge and jury and see it as a reasonable approach to doctor or create evidence to back up what they 'know' is true. Dangerous waters of course and here in this case the evidence is messed about with that ultimately we don't know what happened.

I enjoyed it, but it was unneccessarily slow at times. In terms of process the judges content at the end are very enlightening, if not a bit shocking. Strikes me as bizarre that the same judge presided over the original, and then every subsequent appeal and action - is that healthy??
 

Hulkster

Striker
I could be well wide of the mark, but 'local' police seem to have way to much independence and lack of control in parts of the States. Just as in 'Making of a Murderer', with 'Staircase' and countless others you get the strong feeling that they act as instant judge and jury and see it as a reasonable approach to doctor or create evidence to back up what they 'know' is true. Dangerous waters of course and here in this case the evidence is messed about with that ultimately we don't know what happened.

I enjoyed it, but it was unneccessarily slow at times. In terms of process the judges content at the end are very enlightening, if not a bit shocking. Strikes me as bizarre that the same judge presided over the original, and then every subsequent appeal and action - is that healthy??

I was surprised that at the end he seems to have changed his mind and decided that the evidence about Germany and the gay prostitute shouldn't have been allowed.

You can't have the defence stand up and say "this was a happy, perfect marriage, there's no reason they'd have had such a bad argument that could have escalated" whilst evidence is there that the bloke is arranging meet ups with prostitutes (whether male or female).

I can understand a bit more about the Germany thing, but it's so unlikely that two different women he was close to should die from falling down the stairs that I still feel the jury should know about it.
 

McMackem

Fitness Coach
Staff member
I was surprised that at the end he seems to have changed his mind and decided that the evidence about Germany and the gay prostitute shouldn't have been allowed.

You can't have the defence stand up and say "this was a happy, perfect marriage, there's no reason they'd have had such a bad argument that could have escalated" whilst evidence is there that the bloke is arranging meet ups with prostitutes (whether male or female).

I can understand a bit more about the Germany thing, but it's so unlikely that two different women he was close to should die from falling down the stairs that I still feel the jury should know about it.

Yes, at a very basic level - is the evidence of another similar event in his life relevant? Surely the answer is yes...
 

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