The sacking Of Paulo Di Canio. Sunderland Football Clubs Crucible Moment


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Not sure Di Canio was the right appointment to start with, O'neill was finished, we were truly awful under him so Short decides to completely shake the club up with a whole new approach, enter Di Canio, Di Fanti etc.
14 players in, all pretty average at best, mignolet Sessegnon gone, players not liking having to work hard, Di Canio's public slagging of the players (his major mistake) and the club is buggered beyond repair. We have to plan for getting out the Championship, & we really can't afford to balls this up.

Absolute bollocks. The only player where there's even a hint that this may be true is one of the knackers De Fanti & Co. recruited in the summer. This idea that the players didn't like training is a myth, propagated by the Di Canio sympathisers upset that those nasty millionaire footballers have ousted their leader.
 
We were tidy up until the final third and wide open at the back as a result of the pressing, there really was nothing special about it.
We pressed high up the pitch and so we were compact and looked liked a team. We tackled from the front. Unfortunately, as in other games this season, we have players who are too slow e.g. O'Shea, Cuellar, Cattermole, Gardner and were always susceptible to the counter attack.

In my view the rest of the 'old guard' should have gob
Ne along with those who were offloaded. Apparently PDC did this at Brighton keeping only three players. Now, of course, we have a lot of the old guard back together and, hey presto, we are as bad as last season.
 
Di Canio is part of the reason we're in this mess.
Correction, the players shoulder the brunt of this for refusing to play for him.Their petulance has rooted us at the bottom of the league.No regard for the club or the fans, the same fans that pay their wages.[DOUBLEPOST=1382343022][/DOUBLEPOST]
Absolute bollocks. The only player where there's even a hint that this may be true is one of the knackers De Fanti & Co. recruited in the summer. This idea that the players didn't like training is a myth, propagated by the Di Canio sympathisers upset that those nasty millionaire footballers have ousted their leader.
You've obviously overlooked the fact the players petulance has put us in the shit we're in :rolleyes:
 
You'd think we didn't look relegation certainties under Di Canio the way some people talk on here.
Maybe we were and just maybe it wasn't all PDC's doing . He inherited a side that looked doomed and got the points to keep us up and stuffed the mags for good measure. He was then given players to work with by Di Fanti who he obviously didn't rate nor did bally rate as there was only 4 who were regular starters. Then due to cost cutting getting the wage bill down we sold our 2 best players and loaned out big alf . What real chance did he have with a squad that looked relegation certainties for 2 seasons & were horrible to watch? Yeah he was nuts but at least he cared. The thing that galls me is that we didn't have the bottle to stick with it. The players have gotten their way and it stinks . What happens if in 8 weeks do they decide they don't like Poyet? Do they go crying? It's not as if many of them are any good. They aren't exactly in demand. There's probably only GIaccarini who'd get another premier league club. They are a bunch of tossers.
 
Wharra load of shite.
Who else has been playing football then Sherlock ??[DOUBLEPOST=1382344540][/DOUBLEPOST]
Maybe we were and just maybe it wasn't all PDC's doing . He inherited a side that looked doomed and got the points to keep us up and stuffed the mags for good measure. He was then given players to work with by Di Fanti who he obviously didn't rate nor did bally rate as there was only 4 who were regular starters. Then due to cost cutting getting the wage bill down we sold our 2 best players and loaned out big alf . What real chance did he have with a squad that looked relegation certainties for 2 seasons & were horrible to watch? Yeah he was nuts but at least he cared. The thing that galls me is that we didn't have the bottle to stick with it. The players have gotten their way and it stinks . What happens if in 8 weeks do they decide they don't like Poyet? Do they go crying? It's not as if many of them are any good. They aren't exactly in demand. There's probably only GIaccarini who'd get another premier league club. They are a bunch of tossers.
Add way below par for this league to the players list of "credits" and you've pretty much summed it up.
 
PDCs biggest mistake IMO was not getting rid of the old guard.

Contracts should have been paid up, owt to get them out of the club.

Could never have played Gardiner, Larson, Vorn, O'Shea etc and wouldn't be where we are now.
 
PDCs biggest mistake IMO was not getting rid of the old guard.

Contracts should have been paid up, owt to get them out of the club.

Could never have played Gardiner, Larson, Vorn, O'Shea etc and wouldn't be where we are now.

He got close and would have done I believe.

Just needed another three months.

The backstabbers would have knew that.
 
just reading this about Short and noticed a bit about Ferguson and Richardson. You can only imagine what would be said if it was Paulo Di Canio :lol:

shame the players can't hide behind the "PDC was a nutter" for much longer and it doesn't look like they are going to change the performance and effort on the pitch either

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/football-funnies-ellis-short-new-1845921

Don't mess with Fergie
Two magnificent encounters with Sir Alex Ferguson for your delight, the first coming from Walsall striker and former United reserve Febian Brandy in the United We Stand fanzine.

"Kieran Richardson had just made the first team squad. He came into training one day with his car roof down and his music blasting out. He thought he was the man.

"Unfortunately for him Fergie was walking into the car park. Fergie pointed at him and said 'Turn your music off and go home. Don't come back here today.'"
 
Sadly PDC was just another con artist masquerading as a professional manager. His revolution was a sham. We have had 3 idiots in a row now, just hope Gus takes his job a bit more seriously by using qualified back room staff.
 
He got close and would have done I believe.

Just needed another three months.

The backstabbers would have knew that.

He gave o'shea the captaincy. He prefered Gardner and Larsson to many of our summer signings. You can't claim he knew the situation or the need to boot them out when he makes them mainstays of his team.[DOUBLEPOST=1382354373][/DOUBLEPOST]
just reading this about Short and noticed a bit about Ferguson and Richardson. You can only imagine what would be said if it was Paulo Di Canio :lol:

shame the players can't hide behind the "PDC was a nutter" for much longer and it doesn't look like they are going to change the performance and effort on the pitch either

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/football-funnies-ellis-short-new-1845921
There's a difference. Ferguson was strict, but he didn't continually berate his players or slang them off in public. He knew the virtues of actually man managing individuals rather than treating them all like kids. He also admitted he'd cooled down in recent Yearsband he wouldn't be able to manager players now the way he once did.

The comparison is poor tbh, were talking about a respected man and manager, to a buffoon.
 
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The same players that have struggled for the past three seasons. Lack of quality, yes. Petulance? Piss off, I don't see it.
So what else do you call refusing to play for a manager with high standards, without any regard for the club or the fans who by the way pay good money expecting them to play to the best of their abilities.[DOUBLEPOST=1382364186][/DOUBLEPOST]
just reading this about Short and noticed a bit about Ferguson and Richardson. You can only imagine what would be said if it was Paulo Di Canio :lol:

shame the players can't hide behind the "PDC was a nutter" for much longer and it doesn't look like they are going to change the performance and effort on the pitch either

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/football-funnies-ellis-short-new-1845921
Other managers are allowed to discipline their managers in such a fashion & rightly so.Try it at Sunderland & they'll cry like babies & have the manager sacked.How stupid do we look now ??
 
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So what else do you call refusing to play for a manager with high standards, without any regard for the club or the fans who by the way pay good money expecting them to play to the best of their abilities.

Who refused to play?

And high standards my arse. The man was a raving loon.[DOUBLEPOST=1382364702][/DOUBLEPOST]
He gave o'shea the captaincy. He prefered Gardner and Larsson to many of our summer signings. You can't claim he knew the situation or the need to boot them out when he makes them mainstays of his team.

Exactly.
 
Maybe we were and just maybe it wasn't all PDC's doing . He inherited a side that looked doomed and got the points to keep us up and stuffed the mags for good measure. He was then given players to work with by Di Fanti who he obviously didn't rate nor did bally rate as there was only 4 who were regular starters. Then due to cost cutting getting the wage bill down we sold our 2 best players and loaned out big alf . What real chance did he have with a squad that looked relegation certainties for 2 seasons & were horrible to watch? Yeah he was nuts but at least he cared. The thing that galls me is that we didn't have the bottle to stick with it. The players have gotten their way and it stinks . What happens if in 8 weeks do they decide they don't like Poyet? Do they go crying? It's not as if many of them are any good. They aren't exactly in demand. There's probably only GIaccarini who'd get another premier league club. They are a bunch of tossers.
To me it's just becoming more and more apparent why Martin O'Neill set up his side so negatively, and why Di Canio basically felt he had to micro-manage. Neither had any confidence whatsoever in our players.
 
Absolute bollocks. The only player where there's even a hint that this may be true is one of the knackers De Fanti & Co. recruited in the summer. This idea that the players didn't like training is a myth, propagated by the Di Canio sympathisers upset that those nasty millionaire footballers have ousted their leader.

PDC came out and said publicly (you know the thing you all bash him for doing?) and said it was like a holiday camp. Players not training, not doing signings, turning up whenever, talking about international breaks and generally f***ing about.

Think he just made that up "to get him all the attention"? Something all the PDC out brigade keep banging on about, when the only people who are making it all about him were themselves and the media circus.

Apart from that, players don't like training. Plenty have said so but they are paid and it's a must.
 
He got 9 points out of 36, and 6 of those came in the first 3 games. All parties are to blame though, from the board to the manager to the players. The fact in those 12 games we have failed to beat Villa, Stoke, Southampton x 2, Fulham, Palace and West Brom. Getting beat in 4 of them, conceding 16 goals in those games alone and scoring only 5 (never managed to even score 1 a game bar the mags) is shambollic tbh. Yes he was dealt a little bit of a tough job but his results were awful bar 2 games.

Even in MONs last 12 games we picked up twelve points (obviously some circumstances were different). I liked Paulo but its time to move on, i dont get the staunch support for him. He should have been given the job to get us to the end of last season and part way after. That way we were safe and have time to appoint the right man and his stock would have risen as well. He was sacked maybe to rashly, but i myself could never see him changing the fortunes in the grand scheme of things. As much as people might like his attitude towards our non-performing and poor footballers, it just wont work in professional football as players can just bugger off or try even "less"
 
Allowing him to keep the job after the Spurs tirade was the biggest mistake.
 
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