The sacking Of Paulo Di Canio. Sunderland Football Clubs Crucible Moment


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For once we had hope.

For once we had a real revolution.

For once the club was vibrant.

For once we were at the centre of the football worlds attention.

For once we had real passion.

But now it's gone.

This won't be a one year Championship jaunt that we are facing now.

It will be the dawning of a new era of nothingness.

We deserve it for not standing by him.

The club, the players and a lot of the fans did this without even thinking of the alternatives.

We've shit the bed now it's time to lay in it.

Lets not rewrite history. We had one point at the bottom of the league , playing very little of the players he brought in?
 
But we had hope, we had a revolution, we had vibrancy........whatever the points or the position, we were playing good football and we would have come good in the end. Now we only have despair
We were passing from the back. We were energetic. Some of our play was excellent. Even Johnson looked lively. Now we've no hope whatsoever!
 
If only we'd kept Di Canio. We could have lost with a total psycho in charge instead eh?[DOUBLEPOST=1382315917][/DOUBLEPOST]
For once we had hope.

For once we had a real revolution.

For once the club was vibrant.

For once we were at the centre of the football worlds attention.

For once we had real passion.

But now it's gone.

This won't be a one year Championship jaunt that we are facing now.

It will be the dawning of a new era of nothingness.

We deserve it for not standing by him.

The club, the players and a lot of the fans did this without even thinking of the alternatives.

We've shit the bed now it's time to lay in it.


Isn't that the start to one of the Star Wars films?
 
If only we'd kept Di Canio. We could have lost with a total psycho in charge instead eh?[DOUBLEPOST=1382315917][/DOUBLEPOST]


Isn't that the start to one of the Star Wars films?
no far from it
it's the start of our demise
and excuse the pun
but we have no hope to clingon to
 
For once we had hope.

For once we had a real revolution.

For once the club was vibrant.

For once we were at the centre of the football worlds attention.

For once we had real passion.

But now it's gone.

This won't be a one year Championship jaunt that we are facing now.

It will be the dawning of a new era of nothingness.

We deserve it for not standing by him.

The club, the players and a lot of the fans did this without even thinking of the alternatives.

We've shit the bed now it's time to lay in it.

As much as I would not have picked PDC as manager, and expected him to fail with any PL primadonna squad, you may well have a point.

And now it would seem the same fans are happy to do the same with Ellis. I honestly do not have a clue what his continued motivation...bellends on here paint him as some sort of deep-cover mag agent. I would not be surprised if he curses SNQ every morning he wakes up.
 
As much as I would not have picked PDC as manager, and expected him to fail with any PL primadonna squad, you may well have a point.

And now it would seem the same fans are happy to do the same with Ellis. I honestly do not have a clue what his continued motivation...bellends on here paint him as some sort of deep-cover mag agent. I would not be surprised if he curses SNQ every morning he wakes up.


I kind of thought that a while back, I bet he feels like he just had his council house drive tarmacked by a bunch of Pikeys with a full 1/8th" of the good black stuff which has just about worn off now. He's certainly got a full time job on his hands now, if he thought he could do this one from afar he better get involved real quick.
 
Not sure Di Canio was the right appointment to start with, O'neill was finished, we were truly awful under him so Short decides to completely shake the club up with a whole new approach, enter Di Canio, Di Fanti etc.
14 players in, all pretty average at best, mignolet Sessegnon gone, players not liking having to work hard, Di Canio's public slagging of the players (his major mistake) and the club is buggered beyond repair. We have to plan for getting out the Championship, & we really can't afford to balls this up.
^^^^^This^^^^
 
But we had hope, we had a revolution, we had vibrancy........whatever the points or the position, we were playing good football and we would have come good in the end. Now we only have despair


Despair is an old friend................we are Sunderland!
 
For once we had hope.

For once we had a real revolution.

For once the club was vibrant.

For once we were at the centre of the football worlds attention.

For once we had real passion.

But now it's gone.

This won't be a one year Championship jaunt that we are facing now.

It will be the dawning of a new era of nothingness.

We deserve it for not standing by him.

The club, the players and a lot of the fans did this without even thinking of the alternatives.

We've shit the bed now it's time to lay in it.

You were a bit dramatic there ... but it was late.

However, it was the point at which power passed to these pathetic players we have.

So it's a watershed worth noting.[DOUBLEPOST=1382334779][/DOUBLEPOST]
where are people getting "a lot of fans" being involved in this? There were people who didn't want the appointment on this message board and they were steadfast. Other than on here I heard no animosity towards PDC and certainly no one was involved in his dismissal

With you on this. Didn't I see a poll on here where 75% wanted Di-Canio to stay?[DOUBLEPOST=1382335089][/DOUBLEPOST]
How do you know this?
If a boss doesn't turn up to work in any industry than the staff are going to take advantage. If the boss is leading the way people don't mind doing the job. However, if the boss takes all the kudos when things are going right but passes the buck when there are problems his staff will turn against him. That's what happened with MON and PDC.

During recent games they have been knackered after 60 minutes. Pathetic.[DOUBLEPOST=1382335268][/DOUBLEPOST]
Thing is with Di Canio in the end he was looking a bit daft, his rent a gob approach did him no favours what so ever with the team struggling. He needed an early win IMO. He stuck by players who he thought he could trust and they shit on him. Poyet now has essentially the same job of clearing the cancer out of the club. PDC thought he had managed it with casting Bardsley aside along with Cattermole, with Cattermole even coming back into contention after cleaning up his act. Bringing Bardsley back yesterday was weak as fuck by Poyet and he's now losing 1-0 to that bunch of wankers running the football side of it.

This ... IN BIG RED LETTERS[DOUBLEPOST=1382335721][/DOUBLEPOST]
Di Canio is part of the reason we're in this mess.
this x1000

Sadly yes. D-Canio was doing the right things the wrong way. But Short was wrong to sack him because of a player delegation. He should have given PDC the "final warning" of a lifetime and told them to bugger off back to the Academy and behave themselves.

PDC had an awful playing record this season. Largely, I suspect, because of his behaviour. Look what the Ball approach did. Ok he didn't win a leage game, but they were monster fixtures and he got these clowns looking almost like professional footballers. There was no shame in the games he managed. There was on Saturday, and plenty of it.
 
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We are a dog with fleas who were going down irrespective of who was in charge. A raft of new signings, most of whom look like a bunch of competition winners, have just added to the rest of the dross in a squad that has a distinct lack of pace, invention and/or passing ability.

Di Canio was a nutjob and playing 4-4-2 at this level with the midfield and back four he was selecting was evidence of his tactical lunacy. We had hope did we? The drab draw at home to Southampton, the 6-1 at Villa or the 3-1 at Palace certainly didn't fill me with much hope. He may have had us attacking more but that left us wide open to the counter attack and it was embarrassing at times watching Palace's (or any other team we played this season) central midfield charging towards our back four with so little protection.
 
PDC'S problem was that:
1) He expected the players to work for their money
2) He was totally crazy
3) half the players just couldn't hack it... work for their money ffs... what a concept.

Although saying that they are my club and I'm duty bound to support them, with the exception of Bardo. The casino thing was stupid but laughing at the club in my eyes was biting the hand that fed him...

I'd welcome back PDC
 
For once we had hope.

For once we had a real revolution.

For once the club was vibrant.

For once we were at the centre of the football worlds attention.

For once we had real passion.

But now it's gone.

This won't be a one year Championship jaunt that we are facing now.

It will be the dawning of a new era of nothingness.

We deserve it for not standing by him.

The club, the players and a lot of the fans did this without even thinking of the alternatives.

We've shit the bed now it's time to lay in it.

What a steaming pile of shite
 
Stupid attention seeking thread. Suppose its job done then.[DOUBLEPOST=1382337879][/DOUBLEPOST]
A lot of people talked about needing a revolution and a change in culture. Sadly they didn't have the courage to stick with pdc when he would have delivered it. Maybe we would of went down but we needed to hold our nerve.
Can you just clarify that you seem to be saying that you would have taken relegation in order to change the 'culture" at the club? The culture that has kept us in the top flight for a number of seasons, but if it does have some bits of poison then they are mostly at the end of their contracts at the end of this season anyway...?

Not the best plan on the face of it.
 
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We were passing from the back. We were energetic. Some of our play was excellent. Even Johnson looked lively. Now we've no hope whatsoever!

We were tidy up until the final third and wide open at the back as a result of the pressing, there really was nothing special about it.
 
where are people getting "a lot of fans" being involved in this? There were people who didn't want the appointment on this message board and they were steadfast. Other than on here I heard no animosity towards PDC and certainly no one was involved in his dismissal

That's true, I don't ever remember the sacking of a Sunderland Manager being so unpopular with so many Sunderland supporters.
The national media would have the rest of the country believe we were all jumping for joy when "that madman was fired", but we know this is completely untrue.
I agree with the essence of Andy's post. I felt and comtinue to feel that a real chance to rip out the rottenness and build something wonderful was thrown away on 22nd September. But it wasn't the overwhelming majority of our supporters who were responsible, it was Ellis Short who failed to show the resolve.
 
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