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Tbf mate fans don't boo a ref off at half time for having a bad game (although I agree he was poor) they boo him off when their team don't get the decisions and there is a massive difference between the two.

Soo fans booing a ref is not a indication of him having a bad game.

I'm just glad we agree he was poor, nothing else to discuss :)

I think today it was clear the fans were frustrated at how terrible he was though.
 
The ref was terrible today, he's paid to do a job and whatever excuses you make, he's not above criticism any more than the players who are on the pitch.

I said I wasn't going to get drawn into this, I'm still fuming to be honest.



He certainly played a part, which is a big kick in the bollocks let's be honest for a minute.

No he certainly is not above criticism and if you think he had a bad game go for it,like I said earlier no issue with that whatsoever in fact I though he was poor too.

I'm just glad we agree he was poor, nothing else to discuss :)

I think today it was clear the fans were frustrated at how terrible he was though.

Yeah always nice to agree:D
 
The ref was terrible today, he's paid to do a job and whatever excuses you make, he's not above criticism any more than the players who are on the pitch.

I said I wasn't going to get drawn into this, I'm still fuming to be honest.



He certainly played a part, which is a big kick in the bollocks let's be honest for a minute.
What part? He wasn't at fault for any of goals we conceded and as someone has pointed out Defoe was apparently offside in build up to our second!
 
What part? He wasn't at fault for any of goals we conceded and as someone has pointed out Defoe was apparently offside in build up to our second!

The part where he gave the tiniest thing against us (even when there was no foul at all) immediately after blatantly watching our players get fouled and waving play on.
 
The part where he gave the tiniest thing against us (even when there was no foul at all) immediately after blatantly watching our players get fouled and waving play on.
If you mean anichebe then that could've gone either way, Kone went into wickham from behind then I can't comment on free kick that led to goal as too far away but quite a few seem to think it was a fair decision.
 
What part? He wasn't at fault for any of goals we conceded and as someone has pointed out Defoe was apparently offside in build up to our second!

Soft free kicks

Did you see the way he handled the Cabaye incident

If that had been a safc player hedve booked him for ungentlmy conduct
 
If you mean anichebe then that could've gone either way, Kone went into wickham from behind then I can't comment on free kick that led to goal as too far away but quite a few seem to think it was a fair decision.

You're right the ref was great today, you should have gone to specsavers!

I'm pleased to hear you made it to the match though ;)
 
You're right the ref was great today, you should have gone to specsavers!

I'm pleased to hear you made it to the match though ;)
I thought the ref was fine. As I said other than probably booking puncheon for tackle on PVA I can't say I saw any glaring errors.
 
It's the inconsistency what bugs me. He blew everytime we went near the back of someone & they flopped down, yet the same thing happened early doors to Papy but he didn't give it (there's a few other examples but that's one what has stuck).

He's obviously not the reason we got beat, but i still think he had a poor game.
 
It's the inconsistency what bugs me. He blew everytime we went near the back of someone & they flopped down, yet the same thing happened early doors to Papy but he didn't give it (there's a few other examples but that's one what has stuck).

He's obviously not the reason we got beat, but i still think he had a poor game.

Inconsistency is inevitable mate depending on your angle and view,some will look a foul from one angle and not from another.

It would be great if refs were consistent but it's not a exact science and as such consistency is impossible IMO.
 
Inconsistency is inevitable mate depending on your angle and view,some will look a foul from one angle and not from another.

It would be great if refs were consistent but it's not a exact science and as such consistency is impossible IMO.


I tried to make a vow to be fairer to refs but the fact is he was beyond shit . Everyone time their players went down he blew. Yet he was not penalising then for the same offences . Even let puncheon kick out petulantly at van arnholt with no card. Absolute garbage.
 
I tried to make a vow to be fairer to refs but the fact is he was beyond shit . Everyone time their players went down he blew. Yet he was not penalising then for the same offences . Even let puncheon kick out petulantly at van arnholt with no card. Absolute garbage.

It's just a conspiracy against us,just Sunderland no one else,all hate us,refs,FA,the lot of them we fucked.
 
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