The pens taken at Charlton end

I think this part would get around it though;

'Unless there are other considerations (e.g. ground conditions, safety etc.), the referee tosses a coin to decide the goal at which the kicks will be taken which may only be changed for safety reasons or if the goal or playing surface becomes unusable

The end can even be changed after the first coin toss is my reading of that rule.

Again, I don't agree that it's fair at all.
He would have to have legitimate reason, not just some club official saying “ it’s not safe” and him replying within 10 seconds, “ aye ok”. Any potential pitch invasions would be obvious beforehand, any structural issues would be identified in advance, lack of police is neither relevant because it is the same for both sides nor is it fair on Rovers. The only issue that I see they can’t predict is the state of the penalty spot and we all know that wasnt the issue this time around.
 


He would have to have legitimate reason, not just some club official saying “ it’s not safe” and him replying within 10 seconds, “ aye ok”. Any potential pitch invasions would be obvious beforehand, any structural issues would be identified in advance, lack of police is neither relevant because it is the same for both sides nor is it fair on Rovers. The only issue that I see they can’t predict is the state of the penalty spot and we all know that wasnt the issue this time around.

I completely agree, and those reasons should be made public. Still doesn't help the Doncaster players or supporters now though. Like I said an investigation needs to take place to ensure this cant happen again.
 
At the risk of getting some stick here, I took quite a different view.

A) I’m pretty sure penalty shoot-outs being allocated an end by police on safety reasons is fairly common. It’s usually pre-determined before the game.

B) Everyone talking about Doncaster having a disadvantage... well of course they did but isn’t that the point? They finished 15 points behind Charlton over a league season and as such were required to play the deciding second leg away from home. Just as we did because we finished below Pompey.

It’s not meant to be fair. That’s why they call it home advantage.
Should maybe give Charlton a goal head start as well. I mean it's not meant to be fair or owt is it? Absolutely mental.
 
Any sign of anyone other than us being up in arms about this and particularly the powers that be? Are they doing anything about the pitch invasion?
I've seen someone on twitter saying the have submitted a freedom of information request about it. Not sure what he has asked, it's to the police
 
"Not safe" ffs :lol:
What does a that even mean?

It means that after the game has finished its impossible to control every fan, the easiest way to avoid fighting on a large scale is to keep one set of fans contained, obviously this is much easier with the smaller in numbers away fans, as they’re already confined to one section of the ground.
 
It means that after the game has finished its impossible to control every fan, the easiest way to avoid fighting on a large scale is to keep one set of fans contained, obviously this is much easier with the smaller in numbers away fans, as they’re already confined to one section of the ground.
Oh thanks. I thought there might have been a trapdoor in that penalty area or risk of earthquakes
 
As said on the other thread, absolute disgrace and the Donny manager should have taken his players off the pitch imo...total piss take.

Rules are rules and are there for a reason, every one knows them, everyone should abide by them. The rules were broken, irrespective of who made the decision. If it was for safety reasons the authorities should have been aware beforehand. Judging by the Doncaster captains response, he certainly wasn’t. They then had the nerve to toss for who goes first and Charlton won that as well. Anyone saying it doesn’t make a difference which end they are taken, is also talking shite, otherwise why have the toss up in first place. Of course it doesn’t always work out that way. If the Police thought it was unsafe, that should have also been communicated beforehand, the fact that a Charlton official escorted the police to the ref and did most of the talking would suggest that it is obviously a joint decision. They should have had legitimate reason for choosing that end and that should be conveyed to the EFL before the chance of any shoot out took place. Why should Rovers suffer if Charlton couldn’t afford to police it properly or the police couldn’t be arsed. It’s all supposition at the moment because we don’t know what the safety reasons are, unless I’ve missed something, but it should be investigated
Totally agree
 
With that logic, do the police and safety officer tell the ref to blow his whistle while the ball is down the opposite end of the pitch to the away fans in, say for example, a final day relegation decider...just in case the fans decide to invade the pitch - can't have them running to celebrate with their players metres away from the away fans!
I'm sure that has happene
 
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There was brief footage of 2 PC's and a suit talking to the ref while the teams were sorting themselves out. When they did the coin toss you could see the ref telling the Donny captain there wasn't a choice of ends, he wasn't happy.
 
just reading on another forum that it was due to "items thrown onto the pitch and at players by some fans" No mention of which fans or any evidence of the incident. Can only assume by this they are referring to Doncaster end. i watched the game and cannot recall any items thrown at players.
 
i never saw it but from what i gather it's disgusting.
charlton gained an advantage and in do or die like a shoot out anything be it big or small will count.
i presume charlton will get fined for failing to control their fans, same happened at shrewsbury the other week. i can understand the reasons and celebrations but imo this h&s rubbish was just an excuse to give charlton an advantage.
nothing against charlton btw, always found their fans to be fine. it's the bellends in charge. wonder what would've happened if doncaster refused to take their penalties.
If they get fined, then the savings made on policing will be cancelled out with the fine and cost of the damaged cross bar

Lets hope in the interest of fairness, Charlton get stuffed next Sunday.
 
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just reading on another forum that it was due to "items thrown onto the pitch and at players by some fans" No mention of which fans or any evidence of the incident. Can only assume by this they are referring to Doncaster end. i watched the game and cannot recall any items thrown at players.
Watch the penalty shootout, there was definitely things thrown at players during that
 
Gamesmanship at its worst ,consider that it was done to give an advantage to the home side. The referee was put on the spot and caved in and allowed outside influences to give health and safety issues too much credence , a more experienced official would have stood his ground in the interests of fair play. Now that it has happened you can see it happening on a regular basis , the floodgates have been opened - A cheaters charter !!!. The FA and EFL must say this must not happen again , unfortunately too late for Doncaster who were the victims of sharp practice and are owed an explanation from the highest level.
 
It was absolutely shocking. Charlton has the advantage of playing their home tie second and then were effectively gifted the choice of ends for penalties. If it was down to safety reasons then they should have wheeled a f***ing goal on and had it on the half way line. Load of bollocks. Think Doncaster can rightly be aggrieved
 
It was absolutely shocking. Charlton has the advantage of playing their home tie second and then were effectively gifted the choice of ends for penalties. If it was down to safety reasons then they should have wheeled a f***ing goal on and had it on the half way line. Load of bollocks. Think Doncaster can rightly be aggrieved

Should be an investigation hope donny complain
 
Should maybe give Charlton a goal head start as well. I mean it's not meant to be fair or owt is it? Absolutely mental.
Football is not the only sport to take advantage of playing on home turf. Cricket is notorious for setting up pitches to the strengths of its home bowlers, while every Ryder Cup sees the course tailor-made for the home players.

Away teams at Sunderland have a smaller changing room with worse facilities. Should we call that unfair?

It’s competitive sport, it’s what happens. If Donnie wanted to take penalties infront of their fans they should have finished higher in the league.
 

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