The "offside" for the Norwich goal


Well it is the point... the interfering debate is only relevant if he's offside and nobody knows for certain what the linesman is about to do.

I also said in the match thread that I don't think he impeded ekwah in any way and ekwah simply gave up and wasn't alert to the situation.

hopefully we can all agree that Ekwah, and every player always, should stick to the decades old adage of always playing to the whistle, its never been more relevant.
 
It’s not OK any more than a poor decision made by a player who chose to pass the ball when they should have held it. Players are refs aren’t going to make the right decision every time in 90 minutes. Once you take what looked to be a terrible error out they did OK

I do agree here, there’s 25 humans in the game who are going to make mistakes. The penalty at Leicester the other night was a mistake, but a mistake you can understand. There’s penalties that should have been given against us throughout the season, mistakes from the player diving in and mistakes from the referees not giving the foul. They’re human, they’ll make mistakes.

As I’ve said I wish they’d be more consistent - but then each referee then has their own interpretation of things. Take the Dan Neil incident against Boro - you see players racing up to referees every week, shouting, gesticulating, swearing. And the vast majority of the time nothing is given. Yet for whatever reason on that day, Gillet decided to issue a 2nd yellow. I don’t know if he has refereed a game since, but I’d be interested to see how he reacts to any dissent he receives going forward. Will he be consistent and stick with the precedent he set, or will he be inconsistent and back down?

I’ve always said it’s a bloody difficult job, and in this day and age with every single decision scrutinised it will appear that they’re worse than they were 10/15 years ago even, when in fact it’s more just the case of decisions being highlighted more.
 
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hopefully we can all agree that Ekwah, and every player always, should stick to the decades old adage of always playing to the whistle, its never been more relevant.
Think the offside debate misses how easy we gave the ball away and how easy they broke and the fact 3 players stopped for a second to put their hands up
 
hopefully we can all agree that Ekwah, and every player always, should stick to the decades old adage of always playing to the whistle, its never been more relevant.
I agree. I understand why the linesmen keep flags down in the PL because of Var and checks getting completed but think it happens faster in the EFL like usually.
 
Think the offside debate misses how easy we gave the ball away and how easy they broke and the fact 3 players stopped for a second to put their hands up

A more streetwise player would have run into the defender when he stopped, fallen and forcing the issue, removing the inactive issue and either getting the offside or obstruction.
 
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I think whether it's offside or not, Ekwah needs to deal with it first and foremost, which he doesn't.

All match we struggled with any ball played in behind us, first half especially
I think Ekwah was dealing with jt though. It could be argued that the offside player wasn't offside if he hadn't completely blocked ekwahs run and left their full back free to run into space. He was offside purely because he impeded ekwah.

Also, I thought Ekwah played well yesterday as well.
 
Combination of small but crucial moments.

Player looking like he is coming back from and office position Same player looking like he is interfering with play
Linesman seemingly starting to raise his flag and then deciding not too
Ekwah deciding not to be 100% decisive and clear the ball (possibly influenced by both of the above points)

In real time it looked an absolute howler and only when slowing it down/freezing images does it then become a lot closer

If he got it right then well done to the linesman being able to process all of those things in a split moment isn’t easy but given his overall performance it’s not hard to see why people would call his decision making into question
 
I'm astonished this is raging on, virtually every match you see a player racing forward chasing a ball, the keeper has to decide what to do (so clearly that player is interfering already), defenders give hot pursuit because he is there (again clearly interfering). But it's the bizarre offside rules, why is he not flagged offside? Why does the lino wait until he touches the ball? Because only then does he become 'active' in these daft rules. If he leaves it there is no offside. If another player somehow wins the foot race and the keeper had decided to stay then he would be onside and entitled to go for it.

Our scenario is a good bit less dramatic than that but basically the same, leaving just the issue of did he impede Ekwah? - that's a judgement that could go either way, he is in the way to me, but doesn't stop Ekwah doing anything he is trying to. It's shit, but technically, it's not offside. But if you reckon he impeded Ekwah physically then the flag should have gone up.

Well summarised. It's like some people on here haven't watched football for the last 5 years.
 
So 99 times out of 100, (yesterday being the odd 1) as soon as the offside player makes a move towards the ball when within 4 or 5 yards of the ball it's given offside. Ekwah will learn from it for sure, still doesn't take away from the fact it was off side.
 

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