The "offside" for the Norwich goal


I just think we have daft expectations of refs and expect them to get everything right. If the worst thing we can criticise a ref for is not booking a player when they should have they are doing ok

Is that really ok though? We’ve had players booked this season for stopping quick free kicks being taken. We’ve seen opposition players not booked against us for kicking the ball away.

Yet yesterday we see Rowe not get booked for blocking a free kick, and Pritchard booked for kicking the ball away.

It’s the inconsistencies yet again. A foul can be subjective, so whilst frustrating to see 1 player booked for a foul and then a different player not minutes later, that’s perhaps to be expected. But the blocking of free kicks and kicking the ball away is meant to be black and white, and is down to officials not enforcing the rules correctly.

Not spotting the ball clearly going out of play twice right next to you isn’t down to rules, it’s down to poor officiating.

FWIW - I actually agree with you on the penalty, but I’ve only seen it live from the back of the South Stand, and have yet to see a replay.
 
You're talking nonsense here mind. I've just paused the vide AFTER the pass has been made and you can see the ball moving.

He still looks onside and at worst marginal. Pure nonsense to say he's well offside

Wrong
It’s questionable if he is off or not but that screenshot does not prove it mind. You can see his foot in the darker green, you can’t see for sure any of Humes in it. Mind this is us freezing , rewinding etc so harsh to have a go at him for that. But him going to swap and flipping his flag when he thinks the lad is going to get the ball makes me think he thought he was off and has now decided he wasn’t interfering somehow
 
It was easily offside. This thread is the classic test case of the human being that hates been proven wrong even when they evidence is slapping them in the face. The Lino 1-0 39000+
 
Commentators who are irrelevant? Aye megabantz when you're wrong.

The ball has visibly been played on the screenshot I've posted and he still looks onside.
How are commentators irrelevant?

He looked onside from the video moving to be fair, the still image you can’t see the ball.

You must have been Mr T Venables who was beating Eddie and Richie in the spot the ball competition weekly.
 
It’s questionable if he is off or not but that screenshot does not prove it mind. You can see his foot in the darker green, you can’t see for sure any of Humes in it. Mind this is us freezing , rewinding etc so harsh to have a go at him for that. But him going to swap and flipping his flag when he thinks the lad is going to get the ball makes me think he thought he was off and has now decided he wasn’t interfering somehow
I agree. But every man and his dog were adamant he was 'miles off' and its blatant nonsense. Coming from me who's a massive critic of referees and officials.

Some will simply refuse to hold their hand up amd admit it could have been the right decision after spiting and frothing from the north stand.
How are commentators irrelevant?

He looked onside from the video moving to be fair, the still image you can’t see the ball.

You must have been Mr T Venables who was beating Eddie and Richie in the spot the ball competition weekly.
I've watched it and you can see the ball move and he still looks onside to me.

Norwich or Sunderland commentators is irrelevant. Frankie Francis shouts a player is one on one when he's got 2 defenders to beat. They're not the f***ing oracle :lol:
 
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Is that really ok though? We’ve had players booked this season for stopping quick free kicks being taken. We’ve seen opposition players not booked against us for kicking the ball away.

Yet yesterday we see Rowe not get booked for blocking a free kick, and Pritchard booked for kicking the ball away.

It’s the inconsistencies yet again. A foul can be subjective, so whilst frustrating to see 1 player booked for a foul and then a different player not minutes later, that’s perhaps to be expected. But the blocking of free kicks and kicking the ball away is meant to be black and white, and is down to officials not enforcing the rules correctly.

Not spotting the ball clearly going out of play twice right next to you isn’t down to rules, it’s down to poor officiating.

FWIW - I actually agree with you on the penalty, but I’ve only seen it live from the back of the South Stand, and have yet to see a replay.
It’s not OK any more than a poor decision made by a player who chose to pass the ball when they should have held it. Players are refs aren’t going to make the right decision every time in 90 minutes. Once you take what looked to be a terrible error out they did OK
 
I'm astonished this is raging on, virtually every match you see a player racing forward chasing a ball, the keeper has to decide what to do (so clearly that player is interfering already), defenders give hot pursuit because he is there (again clearly interfering). But it's the bizarre offside rules, why is he not flagged offside? Why does the lino wait until he touches the ball? Because only then does he become 'active' in these daft rules. If he leaves it there is no offside. If another player somehow wins the foot race and the keeper had decided to stay then he would be onside and entitled to go for it.

Our scenario is a good bit less dramatic than that but basically the same, leaving just the issue of did he impede Ekwah? - that's a judgement that could go either way, he is in the way to me, but doesn't stop Ekwah doing anything he is trying to. It's shit, but technically, it's not offside. But if you reckon he impeded Ekwah physically then the flag should have gone up.
 
I'm astonished this is raging on, virtually every match you see a player racing forward chasing a ball, the keeper has to decide what to do (so clearly that player is interfering already), defenders give hot pursuit because he is there (again clearly interfering). But it's the bizarre offside rules, why is he not flagged offside? Why does the lino wait until he touches the ball? Because only then does he become 'active' in these daft rules. If he leaves it there is no offside. If another player somehow wins the foot race and the keeper had decided to stay then he would be onside and entitled to go for it.

Our scenario is a good bit less dramatic than that but basically the same, leaving just the issue of did he impede Ekwah? - that's a judgement that could go either way, he is in the way to me, but doesn't stop Ekwah doing anything he is trying to. It's shit, but technically, it's not offside. But if you reckon he impeded Ekwah physically then the flag should have gone up.
He doesn't look offside at any point. He looks level.
 
I agree. But every man and his dog were adamant he was 'miles off' and its blatant nonsense. Coming from me who's a massive critic of referees and officials.

Some will simply refuse to hold their hand up amd admit it could have been the right decision after spiting and frothing from the north stand.

I've watched it and you can see the ball move and he still looks onside to me.

Norwich or Sunderland commentators is irrelevant. Frankie Francis shouts a player is one on one when he's got 2 defenders to beat. They're not the f***ing oracle :lol:
So someone’s opinion is irrelevant but yours is relevant?

Frankie Francis’s I will give you that but not all commentators as as thick as him.

What I was saying is everyone has a different opinion on this.

I also said I believe it was onside
 
He doesn't look offside at any point. He looks level.

He may or may not be, but that's not really the point here - the evidence is that the lino was ready to flag, so he thought he was, but he didn't touch it so he didn't. I don't think we'd still be debating a tight offside call in a separate thread after a game we won if that was all that was going on here.
 
He may or may not be, but that's not really the point here - the evidence is that the lino was ready to flag, so he thought he was, but he didn't touch it so he didn't. I don't think we'd still be debating a tight offside call in a separate thread after a game we won if that was all that was going on here.
Well it is the point... the interfering debate is only relevant if he's offside and he looks onside to me. Plus nobody knows for certain what the linesman is about to do.

I also said in the match thread that I don't think he impeded ekwah in any way and ekwah simply gave up and wasn't alert to the situation.
 

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