The Model Works


Ah well I’m over the moon the club have players we will make a profit on at what point do we get promotion or a trophy.
This is the issue. Fans want success now now now and who can blame them. Unfortunately, short-termism got us to our lowest point in 140 years of existence. It’s a fine balance. And one that’s going to split opinion as to where the tipping point is.
 
I think its safe to say we are going through the bit we all dreaded, the selling bit.

It’s not the selling that worries me, it’s the replacing.
Even the very biggest clubs in the world have to trade their best players.

Bayern Munich lost lewandowski.
Barca lost messi and neymar.
Man united lost Ronaldo.
Etc etc etc

That’s just the way it is. All you can do is try to replace them and move on.
 
Made £9m+ on Stewart
Might make £5m on Roberts

Neither were in the squad at the weekend and we got a draw against a team how’ve spent huge and are expected to be top 6 minimum.

Will make future profits on Clarke, Hume, Ballard, Cirkin, Bellingham, Ekwah, Patterson, Rigg, Neil etc.

Still time for some additions and a more than capable manager at the helm.

Might not be the quick fire progress some are looking for but it’s a healthy way to run a club and a business.

Put it in context and you can get to fuck any other way.

Say it again for the people at the back. You don’t sell your best players if you can help it.

The sale of Henderson and Bent and Cana, and then Gyan… was the ultimate start of our descent into L1.

We probably won’t get relegated again this year, but we’re going that way.

Fuck this, honestly fuck it
 
I’d love to see some concrete proof that Brighton and Brentford went up sustainably, or was that just bollocks that has been repeated so often it’s now accepted as fact.

I would suggest that, in the vast majority of cases, teams going up from the Championship aren’t sustainable/self sustaining.
Their model in terms of scouting young players and selling on seemed to be once they'd reached the Premier league and could charge outrageous fees.

Getting there involved "data" but I don't think they were selling clubs at that point.
 
Put it in context and you can get to fuck any other way.

Say it again for the people at the back. You don’t sell your best players if you can help it.

Well no ideally not. But if that was easy then some huge footballing clubs would never have done it but did. It’s tough when there’s 1 year left on a contract and they have no positive indication they’ll sign a new one.
 
Put it in context and you can get to fuck any other way.

Say it again for the people at the back. You don’t sell your best players if you can help it.

The sale of Henderson and Bent and Cana, and then Gyan… was the ultimate start of our descent into L1.

We probably won’t get relegated again this year, but we’re going that way.

Fuck this, honestly fuck it
If your best player hasn’t played football for 9 months, wants away and won’t sign a new contract, and will leave for free in 8 months then you absolutely do sell him.

Complete no brainer under the circumstances.
 
A lot of strangers on this thread

And a stink of rancid Bisto.

Biggest night in their history, and the unwashed mouthbreathing wearers of "middle eastern inspired headdress" are on here
 
If your best player hasn’t played football for 9 months, wants away and won’t sign a new contract, and will leave for free in 8 months then you absolutely do sell him.

Complete no brainer under the circumstances.

Fair enough.

But if your best centre half isn’t playing and your best technical player is also subject to a bid your team want to accept and your squad has got 4 points from 12 and you have an 18 and 19 year old centre forward option both of whom have single figure senior football games and your options at centre forward are a bloke who’s been injured for 2 seasons and a 17 year old and both are midfielders.

And you’re wide open in midfield and your best option to curb that is injured til December, and the second best option is now a first choice centre back, and your third option is a bairn who is soldiering on and been getting pelters for a year.

And your wingers who were excellent last season, one has been coveted all season and not sold (great) and yet the other one might go for a nominal fee. He was good as well by the way.


We’ve now got 24 hours to bring in circa, what?

6 players? Who can hit the ground, running.

I was the biggest advocate of this ‘model’. 12-18 months ago. When it worked. I’ve been turned, not by negative posting on social media, not because I don’t believe enough in the hierarchy but because this is f***ing shit.
 
Fair enough.

But if your best centre half isn’t playing and your best technical player is also subject to a bid your team want to accept and your squad has got 4 points from 12 and you have an 18 and 19 year old centre forward option both of whom have single figure senior football games and your options at centre forward are a bloke who’s been injured for 2 seasons and a 17 year old and both are midfielders.

And you’re wide open in midfield and your best option to curb that is injured til December, and the second best option is now a first choice centre back, and your third option is a bairn who is soldiering on and been getting pelters for a year.

And your wingers who were excellent last season, one has been coveted all season and not sold (great) and yet the other one might go for a nominal fee. He was good as well by the way.


We’ve now got 24 hours to bring in circa, what?

6 players? Who can hit the ground, running.

I was the biggest advocate of this ‘model’. 12-18 months ago. When it worked. I’ve been turned, not by negative posting on social media, not because I don’t believe enough in the hierarchy but because this is f***ing shit.
In the words of Eddie Temple, ‘welcome to the layer cake son’.

Aye, it’s shit for 99% of clubs. Just as you develop a player into something decent, a bigger fish comes along and takes them away.
 
If your best player hasn’t played football for 9 months, wants away and won’t sign a new contract, and will leave for free in 8 months then you absolutely do sell him.

Complete no brainer under the circumstances.

But surely you only do that if you replace him and have that replacement bought and ready to hit the ground running?

Not scratting about on the final day despite having the 9 months you quite rightly say he’s been unfit for.

This isn’t fans being impatient and ‘short termism’. It’s us clearly seeing the damage being done and all the hard work of last season gone.
 
And there we have some fans ambitions in a nutshell.
Balance sheet trophy heading to Wearside
I think our time in league one has really scrambled some people's brains.
Great we're sustainable, meanwhile we're outside the top flight for the longest period in our history, and that ain't changing anytime soon under 'the model'.
 
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If Sunderland get 2m for Southampton being promoted in terms agreed in the Stewart deal then tomorrow is a write off for starters.
 
Let’s face it, selling Stewart at this point is the right thing to do especially if we get close to 12m (less Ross County’s cut) we’ve had Southamptons eyes out.

Hooch has been a great servant to the club but a squad player getting less and less game time.

The rest is speculation…..
 
The time to ask will be in another 2-3 years imo. Average age should be at around the 25-26 mark as opposed to 21-22 as it is currently, with a greater volume and nucleaus of good players. Yes some will leave that we don't want to but the critical mass of talent across the squad will have increased.
 
I posted in another thread that i don't think the model is sustainable.
If 99% of the players we are bringing in are young mainly inexperienced lads and our aim is to build them back up and sell them on and replace with similar, we will soon lose our way and fall back.
The squad needs a balance of older experienced pro's (and no...not the DG/WG type) as well as young lads.
 

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