The main reason we will go down


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Disagree with any of it?

A couple.
Moyes responsible for crocking Kirchoff ,by playing him twice in a week ,whereas Sam nursed him.
Moyes through poor man management unable to motivate Khazri ,by freezing him out of the picture.
Moyes confusing players like Borini ,by moving him all over the place ,continually changing his role.
Make all the excuses you want but Moyes is making a pigs ear of the hand he's been dealt.
 
No - he bought a couple of players for a combined wage of 25k per week and a combined fee of 5 million. I would imagine he would have expected to play them in the cups and occasionally in the league, more often as the season went on perhaps. He would have expected McNair would have been useful at times playing alongside Cattermole, Kirchhoff etc and would maybe develop into a decent player on low wages.

Thus far bar 2 goals down QPR (about his level) McNair has been absolute dog shit. I prefer Love, at least he puts himself about a bit. McNair is Rodwell very light. He lets the whole game pass him by. Hopefully a new manager can get a game out of him.

I saw no improvement on his awful marking and woeful lack of tracking his man from game to game. Moyes must have been happy with him or just can't coach players. Not the worst call as the whole team haven't improved doing the basics all season.
 
Thus far bar 2 goals down QPR (about his level) McNair has been absolute dog shit. I prefer Love, at least he puts himself about a bit. McNair is Rodwell very light. He lets the whole game pass him by. Hopefully a new manager can get a game out of him.

I saw no improvement on his awful marking and woeful lack of tracking his man from game to game. Moyes must have been happy with him or just can't coach players. Not the worst call as the whole team haven't improved doing the basics all season.

21 year old. One for the future, 5 starts only in the league earlier that the manager would have ideally wanted, gets a cruciate injury and that's what we get from some of our fans. Hes neither good, bad, indifferent or 'dogshit'. You have no idea.
 
They have certainly got a board that sticks by their manager even if it means relegation.



BSA was allowed to spend money and huge wages on top of the squad he already had.
Moyes was given 30 million to spend, 9 gaps to fill in the squad and told to cut costs while doing it.
Well Moyes shudnt have taken the job on then esp as he was sitting on top his nice compo pile from man ure
 
21 year old. One for the future, 5 starts only in the league earlier that the manager would have ideally wanted, gets a cruciate injury and that's what we get from some of our fans. Hes neither good, bad, indifferent or 'dogshit'. You have no idea.

I am being harsh, perhaps he'll improve with time or needs a new coach / manager to bring him on.

However, I watched Henderson at the same age and I knew he was player. The first touch was there, the range of passing, sharpness, he couldn't header or tackle but they can be coached. What can't be coached is having time. Henderson always had time, good first touch, a little feignt to buy him half a second in a crowded area of the pitch.

McNair I just don't see it.
 
It doesn't make great reading. I don't know how anyone can read that and think, hmmm let's give £50K a week, vastly experienced Dave a bit more time. It was a hard job but he had all the credentials to make a go of it.

Instead he's a been a total distaster from start to hopefully his finish very soon.
Not a cat in hells chance Moyes will be sacked , even if we get beat Saturday. Short has got 'his man' and that's it. Oh , and Moyes' mate Bain been brought in. Ferkin joke we are.
 
A couple.
Moyes responsible for crocking Kirchoff ,by playing him twice in a week ,whereas Sam nursed him.
Moyes through poor man management unable to motivate Khazri ,by freezing him out of the picture.
Moyes confusing players like Borini ,by moving him all over the place ,continually changing his role.
Make all the excuses you want but Moyes is making a pigs ear of the hand he's been dealt.
I would say he's done a poor job with a poor hand.
 
I would say he's done a poor job with a poor hand.

He did a relatively good job with a relatively poor hand at Everton for years. It was why he was brought to the club. He is used to working with a tight budget. He is being very handsomely reward because of his experience.

He's been an absolute joke here. He hasn't got a thing right at SAFC.
 
BSA had fit Kirchoff.
Moyes had crocked Kirchoff.
BSA had fit Cattermole.
Moyes had crocked Cattermole.
BSA had motivated Khazri.
Moyes has overweight Khazri.
BSA had money motivated Kone.
Moyes had pissed off want to leave Kone.
BSA had Mvila.
Moyes didn't.
BSA had on form Borini.
Moyes had badly out of form Borini.

That will and did completely turn a good team into a shit one overnight.
Well put, sir.
 
He did a relatively good job with a relatively poor hand at Everton for years. It was why he was brought to the club. He is used to working with a tight budget. He is being very handsomely reward because of his experience.

He's been an absolute joke here. He hasn't got a thing right at SAFC.
Everton were nowhere near the clusterfuck that he has inherited here. Plus he had 11 years or something to do a relatively good job there. He's only 8 or 9 months in here man. People have wanted the bloke out after 2 games ffs.
 
Everton were nowhere near the clusterfuck that he has inherited here. Plus he had 11 years or something to do a relatively good job there. He's only 8 or 9 months in here man. People have wanted the bloke out after 2 games ffs.

Why did he get more than one season at Everton? Because he wasn't relegated. He hit the ground running in his first season as the vast majority of managers have to these days.
 
Everton were nowhere near the clusterfuck that he has inherited here. Plus he had 11 years or something to do a relatively good job there. He's only 8 or 9 months in here man. People have wanted the bloke out after 2 games ffs.

Some didn't want him in from day one

Never mind two in

He made a complete fuck up at united Christ if you can't dee it there

Sociedad say nee more

Blokes just an utter fraud

I was in the Moyes in camp till Stoke away now just get the useless cuunt out
 
No financial strategy
No transfer strategy
No academy strategy
No managerial strategy
No club strategy

Simply no f***ing strategy, combined with injuries...

BSA had fit Kirchoff.
Moyes had crocked Kirchoff.
BSA had fit Cattermole.
Moyes had crocked Cattermole.
BSA had motivated Khazri.
Moyes has overweight Khazri.
BSA had money motivated Kone.
Moyes had pissed off want to leave Kone.
BSA had Mvila.
Moyes didn't.
BSA had on form Borini.
Moyes had badly out of form Borini.

That will and did completely turn a good team into a shit one overnight.

Add to this BSA has Kabul
Moyes has not
BSA had watmore
Moyes does not
BSA had a player we won't mention
Moyes does not

though I still think Moyes negatively doesn't help. the way the club is run is to blame more than Moyes right now
 
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Some of those players in France such as Cabaye, Ben Arfa, Thauvin and Sissoko were bought for big fees and sizeable wages as they were already French international footballers - no comparison. Some of their other French players were just shit anyway.

You are missing the point. Its the clubs policy not Moyes'- your argument is with the board. If you have to reduce the wage bill massively and develop players for resale you are in a completely different market.

Don't agree, look at what Hull's manager did in January with no budget and losing 2 of his best players

Moyes has wasted every penny.

We've had a chronic injury list all season, and we've also run out of money. These are the main reasons we might go down.

We've spent more this year than we did in previous years.

Main reason we are going down is David Moyes.
 
Putting lack of quality, injuries and shopping at pensioners/crocks r'us is the miracles of previous seasons. Players have a mistaken belief that they can turn it on for latter part of the season. I pray but doubt it this season. In most games thus far we have been outfought or outplayed. Please please shove this back in my face at the end of the season if I'm wrong. I would be delighted!
Suggests the attitude of the players at fault then. Time will tell whether the much-vaunted "clearout" takes place or not.
 
Putting lack of quality, injuries and shopping at pensioners/crocks r'us is the miracles of previous seasons. Players have a mistaken belief that they can turn it on for latter part of the season. I pray but doubt it this season. In most games thus far we have been outfought or outplayed. Please please shove this back in my face at the end of the season if I'm wrong. I would be delighted!

Well, first you should define who the players who turn it on for the latter part of the season are??? The reality is that of our 27 games, Defoe has started 27, Kone has started 22 and Ndong 19. Only five other players have started more than half of our games. That more than anything is the reason we are where we are. You can't instill a playing style or even maintain a formation when you are constantly chopping and changing due to injuries, suspension, ACON, etc. No team in the bottom half of the PL has a deep/strong enough bench to withstand the churn we have experienced.
 
I'm still shocked at how that hope was knocked out of us. Okay we had the England farce and injuries, but we still should not have slipped so much.

Moyes has to take the blame.
Not according to him

I'm still shocked at how that hope was knocked out of us. Okay we had the England farce and injuries, but we still should not have slipped so much.

Moyes has to take the blame.
Not according to him
 
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