The Greatest Shipbuilding Port in the World


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Why should there be conflict about this?
Sunderland is known for both.
The biggest shipbuilding town in the world and for mining and exporting coal.
There was a great big coal mine virtually slap bang in the middle of the town, and the place was ringed by coal mines.
As you rightly say Sunderland is known for both and many other industries,but the best thing it has produced is Mackems
 
They have one massive memorial not only to mining but to its early demise in this area. The Queen Alexandra Bridge opened c 1909 to get the coal from the new pits proposed on the north bank of the Wear to the staithes on the south bank. The loss of markets in WWI and the change over to oil. Meant those pits never opened and the bridge closed to rail traffic in 1926. The North Eastern Railway paid around 75% of the cost. The roadway still survives. For those who say it was too weak, it was the heaviest and strongest structure of its type in Europe when it opened.
 
I think we should be looking to invest some money into putting a bit more character into the stadium. A few more statues, more murals etc. Something related to the ship building past of the stadium would be great.

I know people will say that we should focus on the on field stuff first, but if you take that mentality then there is never a good time to be investing in the off the field structure and you're end up with isolation between the supporters and the soulless money-making corporation of the club.

For the more cynical among us, I would argue that making supporters feel closer to the team through upgrading the stadium is also a good profit making decision - while will help the club in the long term. As it will actually increase the likelihood that people spend money on the club as they feel a greater psychological investment - if you feel the club represents you then its more of your duty to buy season tickets etc.
 
In nautical terms this thread is the Titanic.

I live in Hampshire and the blokes down the pub were going on about the county’s great nautical history, with both Southampton and Portsmouth, and how little history there was from the North East. They were surprised when a lad from Newcastle and I both pointed out the huge shipbuilding history on both rivers.

We did mention that both the south coast cities are linked with two famous ships, the Titanic and The Mary Rose. The local’s seamanship wasn’t much to write home about.
That didn’t raise many laughs for some reason.
 
The thing is Sunderland Association Football Club is not just about the city of Sunderland. It was County Durhams major team and did, and still does, draw a vast amount of its support from outside the city, the out villages, South Tyneside and also from the coal areas of Northumberland. Which is a good thing.
 
The thing is Sunderland Association Football Club is not just about the city of Sunderland. It was County Durhams major team and did, and still does, draw a vast amount of its support from outside the city, the out villages, South Tyneside and also from the coal areas of Northumberland. Which is a good thing.
Undoubtedly, but it's the City of Sunderland's team and to suggest otherwise (something we regularly see on here from non-Mackems) is just ridiculous.
 
Undoubtedly, but it's the City of Sunderland's team and to suggest otherwise (something we regularly see on here from non-Mackems) is just ridiculous.
Well that's just it, it's strength is that it isnt, it draws it support from far wider than the city, hence why the crowds are disproportionate to the actual population of the city, as you put it, non jackets make up a vast amount of the support.
 
Well that's just it, it's strength is that it isnt, it draws it support from far wider than the city, hence why the crowds are disproportionate to the actual population of the city, as you put it, non jackets make up a vast amount of the support.
You've just proved my point...it's ridiculous to suggest that it's not the city of Sunderland's team :lol:
 
You've just proved my point...it's ridiculous to suggest that it's not the city of Sunderland's team :lol:
it's just happened to be the biggest town to have it. It doesn't matter where we are from, nobody is any better supporter just because you live in the city. In fact, a lot of people live outside the city but closer to the actual club than people who do. The club is mainly ran from the academy now anyway.
 
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