The 'get rid of' list.

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GK
McLaughlin - Keep
Ruiter - Out of contract
Stryjek - Give new contract then loan out

Verdict - McLaughlin as keeper, sign a back up and loan out Strjek to a L2 club after he impressed in the national league.

RB
Love - Sell/loan out
Matthews - Out of contract

Verdict - Sign a first choice right back with O'nien/Hume capable of covering.

CB
Flanagan - Listen to offers
Baldwin - Listen to offers
Ozturk - Keep
Loovens - Sell/release

Verdict - Sign at least 1 first choice CB to replace Dunne.

LB
Oviedo - Sell
Hume - Keep
James - Renew contract

Verdict - Hume should be first choice with James there as back up.

CM
Cattermole - Move on if possible,
Leadbitter - Keep
Robson - Didn't pull up any trees in Scotland. Loan to another L1 club and bring him back in January if he's doing well.
Power - Listen to offers
McGeough - Keep (Should be a starter)
O'Nien - Keep
Mumba - Loan out for experience
Honeyman - Listen to offers

Verdict - Need to move at least 2 out. I'd like us to sign 1 athletic CM (Could O'Nien be this player)

Wingers
Gooch - Keep
McGeady - Keep
Watmore - Keep
Maguire - Keep
Embleton - Keep
Molyneux - Out of contract

Verdict - Lots of good options but we need an out and out number 10 or right winger.

Grigg - Keep
Wyke - Keep
Kimpioka - New contract and loan out to national league / L2

Verdict - Sign at least 1 new striker someone like Shankland or Norwood on a free would be good.
You we’re doing well until this bit “Gooch - Keep” he’s gash and offers nothing, so it’s a no from me, get rid if possible.
 
You we’re doing well until this bit “Gooch - Keep” he’s gash and offers nothing, so it’s a no from me, get rid if possible.
Depends if he can get him back to the level of form he was in at the start of the season. Up to November he and maja were our best players by far. Since then he’s been worse than shite like the rest of the team.
 
You we’re doing well until this bit “Gooch - Keep” he’s gash and offers nothing, so it’s a no from me, get rid if possible.
That was the one I was unsure of. I thought he was really good at the start of the season, if he went back to that form I'd be happy for him to start. If he plays like he did for the rest of the season he can play in cup competitions!
 
GK
McLaughlin - Keep...............................................Agreed.
Ruiter - Out of contract...........................................OOC.
Stryjek - Give new contract then loan out...........Agreed.

Verdict - McLaughlin as keeper, sign a back up and loan out Strjek to a L2 club after he impressed in the national league..............Agreed.

RB
Love - Sell/loan out................................................Agreed
Matthews - Out of contract....................................Agreed

Verdict - Sign a first choice right back with O'nien/Hume capable of covering.........Sign two if Love isn’t around.

CB
Flanagan - Listen to offers......................................Keep as back up if Loovens goes. Otherwise Agreed.
Baldwin - Listen to offers........................................Keep as back up if Loovens goes. Otherwise Agreed.
Ozturk - Keep..........................................................Keep to be played alongside speed merchant.
Loovens - Sell/release.............................................Agreed. Replace with speed merchant.

Verdict - Sign at least 1 first choice CB to replace Dunn..........can’t see Loovens leaving without a payoff.

LB
Oviedo - Sell.............................................................Agreed. Can’t see him leaving without a payoff.
Hume - Keep............................................................Agreed.
James - Renew contract...........................................Agree only if Oviedo goes. Otherwise release.

Verdict - Hume should be first choice with James there as back up...................Agreed.

CM
Cattermole - Move on if possible............................Agreed. Think it’ll require a payoff.
Leadbitter - Keep.....................................................Agreed.
Robson - Didn't pull up any trees in Scotland. Loan to another L1 club and bring him back in January if he's doing well...........................................................................Agreed.
Power - Listen to offers............................................Agreed
McGeough - Keep (Should be a starter)...................Agreed
O'Nien - Keep............................................................Agreed
Mumba - Loan out for experience.............................Agreed
Honeyman - Listen to offers......................................Agreed

Verdict - Need to move at least 2 out. I'd like us to sign 1 athletic CM (Could O'Nien be this player)....Agreed

Wingers
Gooch - Keep..............................................Agreed. Keep as back up.
McGeady - Keep.........................................Agreed
Watmore - Keep.........................................Agreed
Maguire - Keep...........................................Agreed
Embleton - Keep.........................................Never seen him.
Molyneux - Out of contract.........................OOC. Never seen him.

Verdict - Lots of good options but we need an out and out number 10 or right winger.

Grigg - Keep...............................................Agreed.
Wyke - Keep...............................................Agreed.
Kimpioka - New contract and loan out to national league / L2................Never seen him.

Verdict - Sign at least 1 new striker someone like Shankland or Norwood on a free would be good.........Agreed.

Pretty much this lads opinion for me anarl. The squads almost taken care of BUT we need an undisputed first choice right back, centre half, centre midfield and forward. Four players who no one would dare push the case for them being dropped for anyone else on the books in the way that McLaughlins the obvious first choice in his position.

But it all hinges on the Oviedo/Cattermole situation. I don’t think paying them off would sit well with any new investors. Imagine hoying your money in and seeing it immediately swanning off down the road in their back pockets?

That was the one I was unsure of. I thought he was really good at the start of the season, if he went back to that form I'd be happy for him to start. If he plays like he did for the rest of the season he can play in cup competitions!
I’ve a tendency to want to keep the academy products even if back up is realistically their role. I think it sends a good example to kids who are in the academy and any possible kids/parents we are approaching. Shows there is a route to the first team here.

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You admitted you were biased.
You Are biased
..........and you aren’t?:lol:
 
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Pretty much this lads opinion for me anarl. The squads almost taken care of BUT we need an undisputed first choice right back, centre half, centre midfield and forward. Four players who no one would dare push the case for them being dropped for anyone else on the books in the way that McLaughlins the obvious first choice in his position.

But it all hinges on the Oviedo/Cattermole situation. I don’t think paying them off would sit well with any new investors. Imagine hoying your money in and seeing it immediately swanning off down the road in their back pockets?


I’ve a tendency to want to keep the academy products even if back up is realistically their role. I think it sends a good example to kids who are in the academy and any possible kids/parents we are approaching. Shows there is a route to the first team here.


..........and you aren’t?:lol:
Well no as I know his shortcomings and, if you wish to do so, you can easily search and see I'm critical of him as well. I can praise and criticise
 
Despite the calls for a mass clear out I can’t see many leaving this summer.

The club will push hard to offload Oviedo, Kone, and they’d certainly move on Cattermole if an offer came in to get him off the books.

Given he’s got a while left on his contract I can’t see Catts leaving.

Donald Love and Adam Matthews will leave and Dunne, Sterling and probably Morgan we won’t see again, although it wouldn’t surprise me if Ross didn’t try and bring Morgan back next season.

The rest were bought on two year deals with the intention of getting out of League 1 within that time frame and they’ll be here next season for another go.

Hopefully the wages saved on the few we move and, together with some sensible recruitment provides Ross with a good enough group to go up automatically next season.

Indeed. It's when analysing the squad you realise how much of a mess we're still in, as there's no obvious pattern to who should go and who we should be building the side around. We have older players on big wages, newer players who aren't good enough, loan players, a mixture of youth and experience, a captain who isn't up to it, some of our best players are either on big wages, getting too old or they're crocks.

So for what it's worth, I see it something like this. Players to go:
Dunne, Morgan, Sterling - all loans to return
Matthews, Ruitter, Love, Kone, Loovens, Honeyman - a mixture of contracts being up, not being good enough, wages too high or just not being part of the plans
Watmore, McGeouch - sick notes unfortunately
Cattermole, Oviedo, McGeady - either offloaded due to wages or interest from elsewhere

I expect some but not all of the above to leave in the summer. Perhaps the most depressing is that I see us keeping our centre backs and building around them. So next season I see it something like this:

McLaughlin

? Ozturk Flan/Bald James/Hume

Power Leadbitter

Maguire O'Nien ?

Grigg/Wyke
Assuming a few of the leavers will stay, add a few new recruits and that'll probably be about it.
 
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We need 2 new first choice centre halves, a new attacking central midfielder and another goal scorer. If we don't get new Centre halves I see us having another season similar to the one that's just finished.

Of the centre halves we've got I'd probably only keep Flan. The Turk has done better of late but he still looks like a liability, he's a mistake or a penalty waiting to happen. Plus he's slower than me. If we can get rid of Oviedo and Catts do so but only for financial reasons. Catts has had a good season overall although he has been off the pace at times, including Sunday when I think he was poor. Try to keep McGeady if possible.
Gooch and Honeyman look like bang average league 1 players, if we get decent offers let them go. All those out of contract should also go.
 
Christ we don’t have a defence left!

It's debatable if we have a defense at present!

Desperately need to see some pace injected into the spine of the team. No really pace in CB, CM or CF positions. Also, needing a CM willing to carry the ball forward and not just look for the first side pass available.
 
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Season over so onto the next. Need to build a side that can win games & that can step up into the higher league. If we had went up this year, looking at the current personnel, we would struggle.

For me I'd get rid of the players that I wouldn't have even as squad players in the championship so

Flanagan
Baldwin
Ozturk
Loovens (out of contract anyways)
Matthews (out of contract anyways)
Honeyman

Also wouldn't resign Sterling, Morgan or Dunne on loan


Was reliably informed, Loovens has another year left on his contract
 
Watmore. He's done man
Yeah, get rid.
Young lad who gave his all.
Had two horrendous injuries.
Came back and was really our only player making runs and having a bit of pace going forward. Starts playing OK after not playing for years. Gets a last min equalizer before getting kicked to fuck by some arsehole from Wycombe.

Aye. Get rid, he's done ffs!! :rolleyes::oops::oops:

Some of our supporters man!
 
I'd like to see him get some fitness and some games next season. If we had someone on yesterday who was willing to go direct and actually run with the ball, it may have been a different outcome.
He is a player who could play at a much higher level.
Someone we need to do all we can to keep. He was starting to look sharp again before he was knacked at Wycombe. His problem is he's too quick for our midfield to think about passing to him

Decent player granted, but think we may struggle Rat, paying his 34,000 grand a week wages.. He may need to go...
I'm sure if we could get rid we would.
I think that may go for McGeady too tbh.
 
Ruiter, Stryjek, James, Matthews all out of contract. Wouldn't try to keep any of the loans. Try to get shot of Love and Loovens in defence as well as Oviedo due to wage and Kone.
Midfield needs shaking up- I'd be inclined to keep Leadbitter and Power but slightly reluctantly get rid of McGeouch if we can due to injuries and Catts just because of wages.

Probably won't manage to clear them all out though. Need a goalkeeper, right back, left back, two centre halves, two midfielders, a striker and possibly a winger if we do get shot of the above though. Busy summer.

Decent post marra, but it would be a nitemare trying to offload Catts on his wages..
 
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