The failure of Ross

Discussion in 'Pure Football' started by naughtynose, Jun 8, 2019.

  1. naughtynose

    naughtynose Striker

    Beggars belief there are people actually happy with him tbh.
     
  2. jsdftm04

    jsdftm04 Striker

    And 8 of the last years it wouldn't have got top 2 in this league. Would zidane come here and 'accept 84 points' if he won nowt?
     
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  3. McMackem

    McMackem Striker

    If he had got either of the strikers he appeared to have got in January we would be waiting for the Championship fixtures to come out. If the fact that they were, at least for last season, both duds is down to Ross then he shoulders the blame and should face the consequences, but even if it is that hardly makes him a 'fraud'.
     
  4. The Rat

    The Rat Striker

    Not fuming about jack Ross

    Who ever decided to sell Maja takes a large amount of blame
     
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  5. Fans talk crap. Always have always will.

    However., Ross didn't fail. The owners targeted a top six finish and that's what they got.

    I think a lot of these posts are down to the fact that Sunderland supporters have forgotten how to deal with having the same manager at the start of a new season as they had at the start of the previous season.

    Bruce was the last one I think.
     
    Last edited: Jun 8, 2019
  6. Dexter

    Dexter Striker

    Hank ffs how many times do you have to be told 84 points wouldn’t have you up most seasons.
     
  7. McMackem

    McMackem Striker

    Perfectly logical conclusion, if there isn't good reasons behind the scenes - that he would have spat the dummy or similar then it beggars belief as if it was financial it was very naive, what we've lost from staying down and what we'd have lost from not letting him go are miles apart.
     
  8. E Tenebris Lux

    E Tenebris Lux Goalkeeper

    Get real, are you a mag ?? Ross has done wonders given the situation he found at Sunderland. We were a mess.
    He has steadied the ship. I'm impressed by him. Rome wasn't built in a day.
    He had to bring in players to boost the depleted squad, many on free transfers and spend money on the players who he thought would boost our attack. Losing Maja was a big blow. The risk of buying proven League One strikers with injuries did not pay off. He was stuck with high earning, aged players who now need moving on.
    Mistakes were made, but everyone learns from their mistakes.
    The stuff written about biggest budgets etc has no impact on being successful. He had to pick from what he had available.
    The truth is, if Portsmouth's Tom Naylor had been red carded as he should have been, it could have been a different story and Jack Ross would have been a hero to everyone including fickle fans such as you. If that had been a Sunderland player I bet he would have been off.
    As a supporter since 1962 I know what we need is stability, chopping and changing managers and back room staff rarely works. We've suffered from knee jerk reactions in the past.
    Jack Ross deserves a chance to improve this squad and given the funds I think he will.
    I'm proud to follow Sunderland and I've really enjoyed this last season, even though it was disappointing at the end.
    Both the current and prospective shareholders hold Jack in high esteem and we need to support him and his backroom staff to get it right next season.
    I'll be there.
    My glass is half full.
    Stop this negativity against the club I love.
    Haway the Lads.
     
  9. bowers2

    bowers2 Winger

    So there yet u go. You’ve just said that Ross wasn’t the only one to blame but indicate one departure was.

    You are tedious on here like. You’ve no idea just come on to wind up people.
     
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  10. manamamackem

    manamamackem Winger

    While I totally agree with you about everything, you said, I still cannot understand for the life of me (and there are a few on here who share similar sentiments!) why after the encouraging, Pre Season and start to the season when we were using Jacks apparently preferred, 'Pressing' style and doing it pretty well, why we more and more switched to Route One. This was before we even knew Maja was leaving, so that is not the answer. It is my most serious concern about what happened and I doubt if we will ever find out. All of the players were playing far better as individuals too. Even Baldwin and Flannagan were playing consistently well!:cool:
     
  11. McMackem

    McMackem Striker

    'A' fan said and was laughed off the thread before having to log off to get his bedtime story read to him.
     
  12. 10 Gary Rowells

    10 Gary Rowells Striker

    Bit late for the bandwagon mate.
     
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  13. The Rat

    The Rat Striker

    I’ll never understand the reasons

    I could be more cynical about it but I’ll put it down to naivety

    1.5 mill is fuck all, especially when you panic and blow double on a worse player
     
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  14. Roker Mackem

    Roker Mackem Striker

    Embarrassing
     
  15. The Rat

    The Rat Striker

    Baldwin and maguire aren’t good enough to get you promoted

    Keeper solid league one

    Mcgeady n catts excellent

    The squad was flawed and not one of best 2 in league
     
  16. Two million voices

    Two million voices Central Defender

    Which means fuck all to be honest, we got 84 points finished 5th and didn’t go up.
     
  17. Botchie

    Botchie Winger

    I think that's a fair comment. I cut him some slack because of the shit show he walked into. I also don't think the appointment of Coton worked. If we can see some of plan in our signings and preseason then great, however he's under a lot pressure. I really enjoyed last season and just treated like a jolly going to new grounds and stuff, but no excuses this time though.
     
  18. The Rat

    The Rat Striker

    I think he did ok personally

    I’ve thought all season the squad was one dimensional and not quite good enough

    I was very surprised we were 2nd with 5 games left
     
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  19. Zidane

    Zidane Winger

    We are where we are.
     
  20. McMackem

    McMackem Striker

    I think the majority will hold a similar view amongst fans and inside the club, the owners have already clearly stated we need to go up comfortably this season, we must go up and not have any edge of seat finish - if that doesn't look likely by mid-October he'll be gone IMO.
     
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