The Durham Assoc parade at the SOL tomorrow...


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This thread should be in the Politics forum, cos it'll just end up in a rabid dog fight.
They do that very well on there ,but in the meantime we have an important game of football to win today
 
I’m not a huge fan of Corbyn but arguably they represent workers rights more than the Blair era.
My view is they now seem to spend more time chasing the middle class vote and forgetting about its hard core support in places like the northeast. Even under Blair the northeast didn't impure compared to other parts of the country Plus Corbyn clear links and support of terrorist organisations it doesn't sit well with me. Add Diane Abbott to the mix who's just bonkers and you've a recipe for disaster..
 
It’d be good to agree on the abbreviations!!! DUM, DMU, it’s the DMA, AFAIA.

Correct. Predated the NUM

I’m all for the parade to show our heritage but as soon as their leader goes up for his handshake I hope it’s accompanied with chants of “you can stick your banner up your arse!”

There’s was absolutely no need for their behaviour during the dicanio era!

Give it a rest. They were taking a stand true to their principles
 
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Labour Party are a bunch of knackers. Ruined Durham at local and national level. Never voted for them since 2007 and doubt I ever will again.

How do you know though, that things wouldn't of been even worse had Labour not run Durham? You may find out in future, be careful what you wish for. People slag off Labour councils, unions and left wingers in general, but have you ever thought , that just by their existence that they maybe stop things from really going tits up. In reality Its not always about improvement but protecting what you have and stopping any further decline , even that's proving to be hard work

My view is they now seem to spend more time chasing the middle class vote and forgetting about its hard core support in places like the northeast. Even under Blair the northeast didn't impure compared to other parts of the country Plus Corbyn clear links and support of terrorist organisations it doesn't sit well with me. Add Diane Abbott to the mix who's just bonkers and you've a recipe for disaster..

Terrorists to some, freedom fighters to others, don't forget those miners today were painted as terrorists also , because they dared to stand up to the system
 
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How do you know though, that things wouldn't of been even worse had Labour not run Durham? You may find out in future, be careful what you wish for. People slag off Labour councils, unions and left wingers in general, but have you ever thought , that just by their existence that they maybe stop things from really going tits up. In reality Its not always about improvement but protecting what you have and stopping any further decline , even that's proving to be hard work



Terrorists to some, freedom fighters to others, don't forget those miners today were painted as terrorists also , because they dared to stand up to the system
Did they blow up innocent people including women and children?
 
My view is they now seem to spend more time chasing the middle class vote and forgetting about its hard core support in places like the northeast. Even under Blair the northeast didn't impure compared to other parts of the country Plus Corbyn clear links and support of terrorist organisations it doesn't sit well with me. Add Diane Abbott to the mix who's just bonkers and you've a recipe for disaster..

He’s definitely always believed in dialogue to solve conflict and probably hasn’t played it the best but to say he supports terrorism is ridiculous and media driven. I guess he’s got a reputation for being liberal London centric and I struggle with the culture of Momentum tbh and left because of it but to balance it the policies they adopted last time round were for the benefit of working class people.
 
He’s definitely always believed in dialogue to solve conflict and probably hasn’t played it the best but to say he supports terrorism is ridiculous and media driven. I guess he’s got a reputation for being liberal London centric and I struggle with the culture of Momentum tbh and left because of it but to balance it the policies they adopted last time round were for the benefit of working class people.
I get what your saying but it's all about opinions marra, I'll leave it there as we'll end up being booted into the politics forum and I don't want that :lol:
 
Looking forward to them being heartily cheered today & about three absolute knackers thinking it's clever to cheer the name of a complete arsehole who was such a top manager that he's been on the scrapheap for six years.
 
Di Canio's political opinions were nothing to do with his ability to manage SAFC. They shouldn't have used his appointment to try and push their political opinions on people either. Sunderland is a predominantly left wing city, most of our fans are more left than right, but SAFC is not a left wing club or any of that shite, it is non-politcal, open for everyone, and that's how it should be. Threatening to remove a banner (no one would care) and kicking up a fuss about our choice of manager man, it was pathetic. Do they expect the club to check the political allegiance of every player as well just to make sure they "fit in"? I'm all for celebrating our heritage, but that one act was ridiculous
Our club is left wing

We sing the red flag

We value the work put in by working class people every week in order to be able to buy a ticket, it’s been that way for over a century.
 
Our club is left wing

We sing the red flag

We value the work put in by working class people every week in order to be able to buy a ticket, it’s been that way for over a century.

The club isn't. The majority of fans are, but the club isn't like a Celtic which was specifically founded to represent a certain section of society, it was set up by a load of teachers just to be a football club in Sunderland. Nothing in the club's history suggests it is a left wing institution, as I say it is apolitical and open to all, regardless of the political leanings of the majority of fans (most of whom aren't rabidly arsed about politics one way or the other)
 
Both sides of my family were miners, and I think it’s only right we should remember our heritage and that’s what these banners are for, they are pretty much all that remains of our mining history in the region. I know they can be emotive for lots of reasons but they should not be allowed to quietly disappear.
This. Not sure how I ended up insulting you on this subject the other day but I retract it fully and offer my apologies.
 
Was disgusting the way the press and then our Durham miner friends jumped on the bandwagon to attack Sunderland when we appointed DiCanio. The week before he was on football focus, told he was a Premier league legend, he was a West Ham hero, and was patted on the back where ever he went. Sunderland appoint him, and suddenly he was worse than Hitler.

Do they still insist we check the political opinions of all of our staff, under the threat of taking their banner home?
agreed.
 
It may well be a myth these days but no harm remembering when it was strong and gained all working people rights and rewards which successive Tory governments have tried to erode
It gained rights for miners and maybe a few spin offs but anyone thinking it was for the good of other workers throughout the country needs to revisit their history...the miners were only concerned about one thing,the miners.

Some DUM officials did very nicely. I post this without comment.....(The original article is below the Spanish version)

David Hopper, camarada de Jeremy Corbyn, adquirió un portafolio secreto de propiedades en Cuba - América 2.1
Don't forget three ladders & two boilers together with the £400 a month living expenses claims, Hetherington.

It may not be as common as it once was, but working class solidarity a myth? how do you think the miners won the strikes of 72 and 74 ? give your head a shake :rolleyes:
Because of weak government and blackmailing the Labour party.
 
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The club isn't. The majority of fans are, but the club isn't like a Celtic which was specifically founded to represent a certain section of society, it was set up by a load of teachers just to be a football club in Sunderland. Nothing in the club's history suggests it is a left wing institution, as I say it is apolitical and open to all, regardless of the political leanings of the majority of fans (most of whom aren't rabidly arsed about politics one way or the other)
Then shortly taken over by shipbuilders.
 
Our club is left wing

We sing the red flag

We value the work put in by working class people every week in order to be able to buy a ticket, it’s been that way for over a century.

We do sing the red flag. But I don't understand why we don't sing the correct lyrics. They fit perfectly.
 
*Miners parade

I'll be making sure that I arrive at the stadium when the feckers have finished. The brass neck, after the way they went on about Di Canio... :confused:
Was a joke like

We do sing the red flag. But I don't understand why we don't sing the correct lyrics. They fit perfectly.
You mean the bit that went
Out of work and on the dole
Shove the red flag up your hole
 
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Did they blow up innocent people including women and children?

Who? The British Army, the CIA? innocent people always get hurt in wars and conflict, its why Socialists do every thing they can to avoid them in the first place
 
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