Thatchers children


Har far back do you go to blame people? The Labour government of the 70s couldn’t guarantee domestic power when I was a child. I blame them for me not fulfilling my potential.
Done a bit thinking about this the last few years, lads of my age waited a long time for a labour govt or a govt with a social conscience and we got Tony Blair Ffs took us to war on a lie then his mate sold off the gold.

was listening to gonk fist - a place where I belong in the week and there’s a few sound bites from that era, oz in particular “theres knee jobs knee hope knee nowt” just brought all this shit back like.

as the butcher said whole communities devastated man, in some places we have a couple of generations now with a nowt to lose attitude so just take or do what they like

sad as fukk man.
 
Nothing wrong with closing the pits and yards - it needed to be done as there was no demand for them any more and you'd just be funding industries for the sake of it.

The issue was the lack of any replacement jobs / training for the people working in them effectively leaving people lost with no income or real potential as the only skills they had were worthless.
 
Left shiney como 1982 apprenticeship at the yards supposedly a job for life, disillusioned at closures sat at 57 semi retired after hawking my arse all over the world doing my bit wondering what the Fukk happened or what was right or wrong, drove past the yard I saved my time at hoping to Fukk this film studio really takes off
I left St Bobs 82 and served my time within a mile of Pallion shipyard and Doxfords where me father served his.

Unrecognisable now.

Let's hope they put that yard to some use
I missed the last wave of apprenticeships in Sunderland yards, despite my grandad being a huge inspiration to me as a time served fitter and turner.

I did manage to wiggle my way into structural draughting then design in my twenties and I think he’d be proud of me.

I do remember teachers at school implying the career routes were quite limited but defined, then after 1984 ish there was no clear direction.

I’ve got a aluminium plaque with Doxford in my garage from my granda and I’ve worked in many shipyards over the years. But none on the Wear.
Me fatha still goes to the Doxford old boys meetings
 
If I knew what you meant, I wouldn't have asked marra.
Glad you enjoyed your breakfast.
Well if the IRA had done better job that day then many of todays woes may not have come home to roost. Housing, energy spring to mind etc. whilst I’m not condoning terrorism I wouldn’t have shed a tear if they had got her.
By the way they have a pretty decent collection of photos and memorabilia type stuff on display in the hotel about the bombing.
 
Done a bit thinking about this the last few years, lads of my age waited a long time for a labour govt or a govt with a social conscience and we got Tony Blair Ffs took us to war on a lie then his mate sold off the gold.

was listening to gonk fist - a place where I belong in the week and there’s a few sound bites from that era, oz in particular “theres knee jobs knee hope knee nowt” just brought all this shit back like.

as the butcher said whole communities devastated man, in some places we have a couple of generations now with a nowt to lose attitude so just take or do what they like

sad as fukk man.
Ah the old sold the gold argument. You do realise that the Bank of England advised that action?
 
Nothing wrong with closing the pits and yards - it needed to be done as there was no demand for them any more and you'd just be funding industries for the sake of it.

The issue was the lack of any replacement jobs / training for the people working in them effectively leaving people lost with no income or real potential as the only skills they had were worthless.
People these days laugh when I say I left shiney comp and I didn’t know what a university was, I’d heard of them but didn’t know how to get there a bit like hogwarts a bit of a mythical place.
Years and years later I was on about this to my mate from school we starTed school on the same day been mates ever since he did a couple of degrees post shiney comp I was whinging about our shut schooling and he explained it like this.
We were never meant to be educated places like shiney comp were there to funnel kids through till ages 16 when they would be filtered through into the local employers any one who did any other was the exception to the rule.
Now take away the local industries and you are just left with shit schools churning out under educated non prepared kids with no prospects ……………………… honest man it’s criminal when you think about it.
Nothing wrong with closing the pits and yards - it needed to be done as there was no demand for them any more and you'd just be funding industries for the sake of it.

The issue was the lack of any replacement jobs / training for the people working in them effectively leaving people lost with no income or real potential as the only skills they had were worthless.
People these days laugh when I say I left shiney comp and I didn’t know what a university was, I’d heard of them but didn’t know how to get there a bit like hogwarts a bit of a mythical place.
Years and years later I was on about this to my mate from school we starTed school on the same day been mates ever since he did a couple of degrees post shiney comp I was whinging about our shut schooling and he explained it like this.
We were never meant to be educated places like shiney comp were there to funnel kids through till ages 16 when they would be filtered through into the local employers any one who did any other was the exception to the rule.
Now take away the local industries and you are just left with shit schools churning out under educated non prepared kids with no prospects ……………………… honest man it’s criminal when you think about it.
Ah the old sold the gold argument. You do realise that the Bank of England advised that action?
Drastic solution to a drastic problem, I would imagine.
 
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No offence, but you can’t blame Thatcher for that, she was ousted in 1990.

Her policy had a very lasting effect, the YTS was a joke and just a way for businesses to get cheap labour under the pretence of "training" when in fact it was cheapo labour full stop, another way for the state to funnel tax payers money into business, no route into collage back then as I had my own gaff and didn't have anyone to help fund it. school was shocking, got pulled down in the end it was that bad, under funding was a big problem.

I ask myself why, when as a country we had a wealth of riches and it was thrown away on tax cuts for the few.

We are seeing history repeat itself again and its a damn shame.

Your right she was ousted in 1990, but her policy didn't change over night and the damage was done by then, took years for the country to recover, just like its going to take years to recover again.
 
But you get what I mean....I grew up with food rationing, but no way am I going to harp on forever about Hitler ruining my childhood as I'd look like an absolute loon.

ps. Thatcher didn't kill 6 million Jews either.

What’s your story @Gelan are you from Germany ?
 

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