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West_Winger said:
That’s the whole point. An I-Pace looks like a Jag, an i3 has the BMW kidney grills, the new Audi E-Tron looks like an Audi.

Nobody wants a car that looks like a rocket ship. They want one that they can sling the kids and their stuff into and drive away.
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I think that's the type steve was talking about(looks like a brick) I was thinking about something like the new Nissan Leaf or Hyundai Ioniq.
 


Dogbark said:
I think that's the type steve was talking about(looks like a brick) I was thinking about something like the new Nissan Leaf or Hyundai Ioniq.
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The i3 is a fantastic car to look at and drive imo.

Cars like the Ioniq and Prius will look similar as that teardrop shape is the most aerodynamic.

PhilSAFC said:
The whole point of them is to be cheaper on fuel. This is still a hidden cost most don’t know about.
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It’s on their website :lol:

I literally posted it. The most expensive version including battery hire is £288 a month. That’s less than you’d pay for an equivalent fiesta.
 
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In Dubai the other week , jumped in a taxi at the airport to find it was a Tesla X

Encouraged the driver to put his foot down from the traffic lights , next thing we’re doing 140kmh

Pdq.
 
PhilSAFC said:
So if you do up to 10500 miles a year which is below the national average. It’s £99 a month. :eek:
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Yes and petrol doing 35 mpg over 10,500 miles would cost £1,689.

£99 per month is £1,188.

A saving of £501 a year.

It currently costs around £3 to fully charge an EV. The Zoe does around 185 miles to a charge. Over 10,500 miles that’s 56 charges. Total cost is therefore £168 a year.

So you can fully charge the car, pay for the battery leasing and still have £333 more in your pocket than if you’d bought a typical petrol car.

lurker said:
But then you have to pay battery leasing on top.
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Which even included in the finance cost works out at less than a Ford Fiesta.
 
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PhilSAFC said:
The whole point of them is to be cheaper on fuel. This is still a hidden cost most don’t know about.
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It really isn't the "whole point" of them. It is one of a number of advantages.

I make the following observations:
1. Anybody who really does think that cheaper transport is the "whole point" is (aside from being an idiot) likely to be the kind of tight-fisted bore who devours the small print for breakfast.
2. Anybody spending 20+ grand in a single transaction (whether in one outlay or in a credit agreement) is likely to pay considerable attention to the terms.
3. Anybody who doesn't pay considerable attention to the terms of their 20+ grand transaction either has too much money or deserves what will befall them.
 
steve30000 said:
Do all electric cars have to be really expensive and look like shit or is it done on purpose?
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The first bit yes, the second bit not necessarily. There is a company selling old-style Minis, but they are now electric. All modern conveniences have been added to the interiors, etc. Stylish and an excellent city car. The downside would be the ninety thousand f***ing pounds they start at.

sorry, I replied before reading further.

PhilSAFC said:
Do you still have to pay a ridiculous amount a month for “battery rental”
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Better than the alter(nator)tative - pay over the odds for an eco-friendly car then scrap it when the battery dies after a few years. MTBF is difficult to calculate as a lot of it depends on number of cycles in whatever environmental conditions, so they rent the batteries knowing full well they are going to fuck up sooner or later.
 
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