Ricci's Special Kebabs
Striker
How much do you pay for a charge?
bobster999
Winger
there's the new free FastNed charging as well that's in the town. fastest one in the UK
Joe Public
Striker
it would have been about £15 had I had to pay, but I got 1000 free supercharging miles for using a referral code.
You won’t get that out of it in real world driving tho, will be around 200 tops.
Has anyone managed to use it tho?!? Their app is shit! It won’t let me choose a non hold member account and the want £10 a month for gold, fuck that!
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bobster999
Winger
Does it plug into a tree for recharging?
WildTurkey
Midfield
What are the differences of the performance v standard?
Some google searches say wheels, spoiler and metal pedals on the performance but some say exactly the same car but with a software upgrade
I’m not keen on the aero wheels so looking at the performance. Does the performance have the coloured brake callipers if opting for the non aero wheels?
Some google searches say wheels, spoiler and metal pedals on the performance but some say exactly the same car but with a software upgrade
I’m not keen on the aero wheels so looking at the performance. Does the performance have the coloured brake callipers if opting for the non aero wheels?
Joe Public
Striker
Performance looks very different mate, the spoiler, 20 inch graphite alloys, premium interior with a class sound system, and the range is much longer.
I would definitely recommend the performance, you won’t be disappointed. Had it for nearly a week now and I’m absolutely blown away with it, it’s so different to anything I’ve seen before and there’s not a car in the road I’ve encountered yet that comes near it for acceleration.
WildTurkey
Midfield
I should have clarified, aesthetic differences
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The Tesla Roadster looks canny, especially the claimed 620 mile range as surely that's got be more than most, if not all fuel based sports cars. The 0-60mph is ridiculous at 1.9s and that would strip a lass of her top if she has a buttoned or zipped top on! 
www.tesla.com
I'm sure some lasses will be impressed with the little bit faster 0-60mph time and nipping away at the traffic lights or Asda car park I'm pretty sure most blokes grow out of the boy racer stage quickly as only f***ing idiot would hoof it all the time risking either getting pulled, caught for speeding, causing an accident or continually looking like a small dick wanker etc!
I've had fast cars and the "oooh I've got a fast car and will zoom away at traffic lights" novelty quick wore off for me. One big reason fast cars are useful is when wanting to 'legitimately' overtake as you can get past quicker and easier. The downside of any fast car, including electric is that hoying your foot down decreases the range in some way.
I'm guessing that once electric cars becomes more mainstream, some may limit the acceleration power as it will cause more accidents as wanna be Lewis Hamilton's end up crashing as they've not enough experience of handling cars when hoying down the pedal either from a stand start or while already moving at speed. Insurance premiums will possibly increase (already high aren't they?) as people end up having more accidents due to not really being suited to drive cars with fast acceleration than they would in a slower car. Imagine little old Doris at Asda car park and her foot slips on the accelerator, she'd have took out the trolley shed out within a fraction of a second whereas in her little VW she'd have reacted in time
The standard is still faster than most cars at 5.3s 0-60mph and 140mph so is there really a point in simply buying the performance as it's quite a bit faster at 3.2s and 162mph? The performance has the longer range and a few frilly extras and the bigger wheels so this is what people should be considering and whether it's worth the extra cost.
www.businessinsider.com
I also see that cold affects battery performance and I presume in northern areas you'd be using the lights etc longer. I've seen one AAA report that claimed some electric cars (not just Tesla) lost 40% range due to cold weather but that's just one test but surely cold does affect the performance of the battery and therefore range?
electrek.co
I see Tesla has this mentioned in their disclaimer
Range figures based on WLTP standard. Your actual vehicle range will vary depending on the vehicle configuration, battery age and condition, driving style and operating, environmental and climate conditions. WLTP standard may be useful in comparing ranges among electric vehicles.
What Car did a test and the performance was only 43 miles more and not the claimed 75 miles. One thing to bear in mind is that if you are buying the performance for speed and continually use it then you won't get anywhere the claimed miles. Though it's not really a problem if people can regularly charge up and I presume they'd always be near a charger point no matter where they go on their travels in the UK.
www.thisismoney.co.uk
OFFICIAL VS REAL RANGE OF ELECTRIC CARS TESTED BY WHAT CAR?
Tesla Roadster
An all-electric vehicle, the Tesla Roadster is the quickest car in the world, with record-setting acceleration, range and performance. Reserve yours today.
www.tesla.com
The benefit being?
I'm sure some lasses will be impressed with the little bit faster 0-60mph time and nipping away at the traffic lights or Asda car park I'm pretty sure most blokes grow out of the boy racer stage quickly as only f***ing idiot would hoof it all the time risking either getting pulled, caught for speeding, causing an accident or continually looking like a small dick wanker etc!I've had fast cars and the "oooh I've got a fast car and will zoom away at traffic lights" novelty quick wore off for me. One big reason fast cars are useful is when wanting to 'legitimately' overtake as you can get past quicker and easier. The downside of any fast car, including electric is that hoying your foot down decreases the range in some way.
I'm guessing that once electric cars becomes more mainstream, some may limit the acceleration power as it will cause more accidents as wanna be Lewis Hamilton's end up crashing as they've not enough experience of handling cars when hoying down the pedal either from a stand start or while already moving at speed. Insurance premiums will possibly increase (already high aren't they?) as people end up having more accidents due to not really being suited to drive cars with fast acceleration than they would in a slower car. Imagine little old Doris at Asda car park and her foot slips on the accelerator, she'd have took out the trolley shed out within a fraction of a second whereas in her little VW she'd have reacted in time
The standard is still faster than most cars at 5.3s 0-60mph and 140mph so is there really a point in simply buying the performance as it's quite a bit faster at 3.2s and 162mph? The performance has the longer range and a few frilly extras and the bigger wheels so this is what people should be considering and whether it's worth the extra cost.
9 reasons you should buy Tesla's Model 3 'Performance' car instead of the standard Model 3
Tesla's Model 3 is an attractive option for anyone considering a new car.
www.businessinsider.com
I also see that cold affects battery performance and I presume in northern areas you'd be using the lights etc longer. I've seen one AAA report that claimed some electric cars (not just Tesla) lost 40% range due to cold weather but that's just one test but surely cold does affect the performance of the battery and therefore range?
Study shows electric cars lose 41% of range in 'icy temperature', Tesla disputes the claim
AAA research released a new study about the effect of temperature on electric vehicle range and they claim that the...
electrek.co
I see Tesla has this mentioned in their disclaimer
Range figures based on WLTP standard. Your actual vehicle range will vary depending on the vehicle configuration, battery age and condition, driving style and operating, environmental and climate conditions. WLTP standard may be useful in comparing ranges among electric vehicles.
What Car did a test and the performance was only 43 miles more and not the claimed 75 miles. One thing to bear in mind is that if you are buying the performance for speed and continually use it then you won't get anywhere the claimed miles. Though it's not really a problem if people can regularly charge up and I presume they'd always be near a charger point no matter where they go on their travels in the UK.
Test reveals the range of Tesla's Model 3 is 90miles less than claimed
When tested by What Car?, the entry-level Tesla Model 3 Standard Range Plus was 58 miles short of claims. The most expensive variant, the Model 3 Performance, was 90 miles off.
OFFICIAL VS REAL RANGE OF ELECTRIC CARS TESTED BY WHAT CAR?
| Model | Price (from) | Official range | What Car? Real Range | Difference (miles) | Difference (%) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Audi e-tron | £68,020 | 248 miles | 196 miles | -52 miles | -21% |
| BMW i3 | £31,680 | 193 miles | 165 miles | -28 miles | -15% |
| Hyundai Ioniq | £26,745 | 174 miles | 117 miles | -57 miles | -33% |
| Hyundai Kona Electric | £27,250 | 279 miles | 259 miles | -20 miles | -7% |
| Jaguar I-Pace | £60,995 | 292 miles | 253 miles | -39 miles | -13% |
| Kia e-Niro | £32,995 | 282 miles | 253 miles | -29 miles | -10% |
| Nissan Leaf | £24,495 | 168 miles | 128 miles | -40 miles | -24% |
| Renault Zoe | £17,720 | 186 miles | 146 miles | -40 miles | -22% |
| Smart ForFour EQ | £18,190 | 68 miles | 57 miles | -11 miles | -16% |
| Smart ForTwo EQ | £19,835 | 70 miles | 59 miles | -11 miles | -16% |
| Tesla Model 3 (Performance) | £49,140 | 329 miles | 239 miles | -90 miles | -27% |
| Tesla Model 3 (Standard Range Plus) | £36,490 | 254 miles | 196 miles | -58 miles | -23% |
| Tesla Model S (75D) | £68,900 | 259 miles | 204 miles | -55 miles | -21% |
| Tesla Model X (100D) | £73,900 | 351 miles | 233 miles | -118 miles | -34% |
| Volkswagen e-Golf | £29,230 | 186 miles | 117 miles | -69 miles | -37% |
| Volkswagen e-Up | £19,615 | 83 miles | 66 miles | -17 miles | -21% |
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PTR
Striker
That's crackers when you think about it.
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The wheels and brakes are different as you've said and it looks like you get red brake calipers. I've seen the software thing mentioned and they did an update in the USA so possibly something in it but given the different wheels/brakes/lowered suspension then is the motor drive to wheel the same, if it has it?
Software update to improve Tesla Model 3 mileage – electrive.com
After the Tesla Model 3 Standard Range Plus received an update a few weeks ago for more charging capacity, the charging capacity of the mid-range version has al
www.electrive.com
This is from the website as I just selected the 2 models and hoyed it together. I'd be looking at video reviews if you want a closer look at them.
Design Your Model 3 | Tesla
Design and order your Tesla Model 3, the car of the future. Learn about lease, loan and cash payment options, warranties, electric vehicle incentives, gasoline savings and more.
www.tesla.com
Both Include:
Tinted glass roof with ultraviolet and infrared protection
Auto-dimming, power folding, heated side mirrors
Custom driver profiles
Music and media over Bluetooth®
12-way power adjustable heated front seats
Centre console with storage, 4 USB ports and docking for 2 smartphones
Standard Includes:
Premium seat material and trim
Upgraded audio – immersive sound
Performance Includes:
Heated front and rear seats
Premium audio – 14 speakers, 1 subwoofer, 2 amps, and immersive sound
20” Performance Wheels
Performance Brakes
Carbon fibre spoiler
Lowered suspension
Aluminium alloy pedals
Track Mode
LED fog lamps
Interior floor mat
Premium Connectivity (1 year included):
Satellite maps with live traffic visualisation
In-car internet streaming music and media
More frequent over-the-air updates via cellular
Internet browser
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monkeytassle
Striker
I was wrong about tesla. They've survived and I want one. I'd quite like them to produce a small model similar to the i3.
I had my test drive at Rockcliffe Hall , could have had one at Slaley Hall as an alternative.
All booked online iirc.
it does
The Tesla Roadster looks canny, especially the claimed 620 mile range as surely that's got be more than most, if not all fuel based sports cars. The 0-60mph is ridiculous at 1.9s and that would strip a lass of her top if she has a buttoned or zipped top on!
Tesla Roadster
An all-electric vehicle, the Tesla Roadster is the quickest car in the world, with record-setting acceleration, range and performance. Reserve yours today.
The benefit being?
I've had fast cars and the "oooh I've got a fast car and will zoom away at traffic lights" novelty quick wore off for me. One big reason fast cars are useful is when wanting to 'legitimately' overtake as you can get past quicker and easier. The downside of any fast car, including electric is that hoying your foot down decreases the range in some way.
I'm guessing that once electric cars becomes more mainstream, some may limit the acceleration power as it will cause more accidents as wanna be Lewis Hamilton's end up crashing as they've not enough experience of handling cars when hoying down the pedal either from a stand start or while already moving at speed. Insurance premiums will possibly increase (already high aren't they?) as people end up having more accidents due to not really being suited to drive cars with fast acceleration than they would in a slower car. Imagine little old Doris at Asda car park and her foot slips on the accelerator, she'd have took out the trolley shed out within a fraction of a second whereas in her little VW she'd have reacted in time
The standard is still faster than most cars at 5.3s 0-60mph and 140mph so is there really a point in simply buying the performance as it's quite a bit faster at 3.2s and 162mph? The performance has the longer range and a few frilly extras and the bigger wheels so this is what people should be considering and whether it's worth the extra cost.
9 reasons you should buy Tesla's Model 3 'Performance' car instead of the standard Model 3
Tesla's Model 3 is an attractive option for anyone considering a new car.
I also see that cold affects battery performance and I presume in northern areas you'd be using the lights etc longer. I've seen one AAA report that claimed some electric cars (not just Tesla) lost 40% range due to cold weather but that's just one test but surely cold does affect the performance of the battery and therefore range?
Study shows electric cars lose 41% of range in 'icy temperature', Tesla disputes the claim
AAA research released a new study about the effect of temperature on electric vehicle range and they claim that the...
I see Tesla has this mentioned in their disclaimer
Range figures based on WLTP standard. Your actual vehicle range will vary depending on the vehicle configuration, battery age and condition, driving style and operating, environmental and climate conditions. WLTP standard may be useful in comparing ranges among electric vehicles.
What Car did a test and the performance was only 43 miles more and not the claimed 75 miles. One thing to bear in mind is that if you are buying the performance for speed and continually use it then you won't get anywhere the claimed miles. Though it's not really a problem if people can regularly charge up and I presume they'd always be near a charger point no matter where they go on their travels in the UK.
Test reveals the range of Tesla's Model 3 is 90miles less than claimed
When tested by What Car?, the entry-level Tesla Model 3 Standard Range Plus was 58 miles short of claims. The most expensive variant, the Model 3 Performance, was 90 miles off.
OFFICIAL VS REAL RANGE OF ELECTRIC CARS TESTED BY WHAT CAR?
Model Price (from) Official range What Car? Real Range Difference (miles) Difference (%) Audi e-tron £68,020 248 miles 196 miles -52 miles -21% BMW i3 £31,680 193 miles 165 miles -28 miles -15% Hyundai Ioniq £26,745 174 miles 117 miles -57 miles -33% Hyundai Kona Electric £27,250 279 miles 259 miles -20 miles -7% Jaguar I-Pace £60,995 292 miles 253 miles -39 miles -13% Kia e-Niro £32,995 282 miles 253 miles -29 miles -10% Nissan Leaf £24,495 168 miles 128 miles -40 miles -24% Renault Zoe £17,720 186 miles 146 miles -40 miles -22% Smart ForFour EQ £18,190 68 miles 57 miles -11 miles -16% Smart ForTwo EQ £19,835 70 miles 59 miles -11 miles -16% Tesla Model 3 (Performance) £49,140 329 miles 239 miles -90 miles -27% Tesla Model 3 (Standard Range Plus) £36,490 254 miles 196 miles -58 miles -23% Tesla Model S (75D) £68,900 259 miles 204 miles -55 miles -21% Tesla Model X (100D) £73,900 351 miles 233 miles -118 miles -34% Volkswagen e-Golf £29,230 186 miles 117 miles -69 miles -37% Volkswagen e-Up £19,615 83 miles 66 miles -17 miles -21%
Mate I drive a 1 litre hatchback that produces less than 10% of the torque of a premium EV and gets from 50 to 60 slower than the Tesla goes from 0 to 60
I am going to enjoy the novelty of being able to accelerate for a little while, but you’re right in that eventually that will wear off.
Still fun, though.
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How long before the fancy big screens are banned? Aye it's pretty simple with nee buttons but having to fart about in numerous screens is surely a concern given it needs the driver to be looking? The point of buttons is you know the general area they're in and as they're tactile you can feel without having to look and do something. This nee buttons and 1 screen is simply cost cutting at the end of the day
At the moment it won't be as bad but you can only imagine the masses pissing about on the screen as some won't remember each and every place something is, nor will they have a 'blind' feel for it. I think they'll end up banning the use of touchscreens in cars for anything apart from very basic things once people are found to have been pissing about with them prior to an accident as it will no doubt happen and it will be recorded no doubt in some sort of black box. It's not the same as using a phone but it's still a concern that cars with touchscreens are going this way and could end up taking the driver's focus from the road.
Take away the performance speeds of that Tesla and it's just the Apple version of a car with an ipad slapped on the dashboard!
The bloke's even playing a game on the screen at the beginning of that video Mentioning Apple, I recall I pointed this out quite a few years ago now regarding touchscreens as I commented on the Apple Carplay here (LINK n Thor'd below) and it just shows what will happen if you allow drivers to fuck about with the screen while driving.Watch just after 3:55 when he goes into the Sat Nav and it allows him to select a destination while moving! Are they taking the piss as surely they must know this will distract drivers? Or at 5:05 when he starts pissing about selecting music? He starts pissing about with messaging around 6 mins and again it allows you to select names on the screen though it's not clear if it shows them which I doubt.
On a serious note, watch just how long he keeps his eyes down from 11:15 to 11:49. Over those 30 seconds, he's basically looking down most of the time. He's looking up for a fraction of a second every couple of seconds and one time it's about 3 seconds he looking down at the screen! Surely this can't be reet and how it works? I know this is a review but imagine some knacker trying to do this and the potential dangers as surely it's a very similar distraction as using a mobile phone? It's basically a big phone stuck on the dash!
In that old post, soon after Vauxhall removed that advert in my post is in my mind due to the fact it implied you could fuck about while driving and then the car itself is shown to suddenly maneuver to the right close to the white line!
They released a newer version here that cropped the video of it swerving as it's already near the white line at 7 seconds!
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