TBF to Roger East


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It's embarrassing tbh.

Yeah agree and seems to getting worse,rightly or wrongly the correct decision was made somewhere along the line yesterday,I.e one of our players deserved to get sent off and a pen against us,yet for some it is apparently another example of us not getting anything from refs,like you say embarrassing.
 
I think people are being a bit harsh regarding East's statement. OK, he hasn't gone as far as saying "I made a mistake" but at least he's explained what he perceived at the time and why he did what he did. That's usually what people ask for from the refs.

It's a fuck up but I can understand how he got to the conclusion he did.

Yep. Time and time again you hear people saying they'd be happy if the referee at least came out and explained his decision. He's done that and he's still getting pelters.
 
Yep. Time and time again you hear people saying they'd be happy if the referee at least came out and explained his decision. He's done that and he's still getting pelters.
Sometimes its best to say nothing. He has made it worse by what he said. Its such a glaring mistake, what can be said?
I'm pleased its worked well for us though and hopefully John O Shea notches on Tuesday to expose the bad decision even more.

Do you mean Lescott and West Brom? They're both tough calls for me. I can see why both were adjudged as they were, but also that either could have gone the other way.



Aye, imagine if it was Matic with the tackle on Barnes and Barnes got up and reacted like Matic and got the red card. Absolute guarantee that people would have been saying that there's no way that would have happened if it was the other way around.
You are clinging onto that Burnley game, aren't ya?! The refs favour the big teams, everyone knows that. Its the same in La Liga. You must be green as grass if you think otherwise.
 
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Sometimes its best to say nothing. He has made it worse by what he said. Its such a glaring mistake, what can be said?
I'm pleased its worked well for us though and hopefully John O Shea notches on Tuesday to expose the bad decision even more.


You are clinging onto that Burnley game, aren't ya?! The refs favour the big teams, everyone knows that. Its the same in La Liga. You must be green as grass if you think otherwise.

It's blown way of out of proportion I think mate,of course there will have been times when a ref has been under pressure at Old Trafford,Anfield etc,however there will be loads and loads of times where a ref has given a borderline close decision to a so called big team because that is what he genuinely thought was the correct decision at the time.

Problem is fans like ours jump on any close decisions big teams get and assume they have got it because of that,when many many times that will not be the case,so yes of course it will have happened before but no where near as widespread as fans make out,sorry to bring it up again but as the Chelsea Burnley game clearer shows.

This big team bias is just a assumption based of irrational football fans
 
It's blown way of out of proportion I think mate,of course there will have been times when a ref has been under pressure at Old Trafford,Anfield etc,however there will be loads and loads of times where a ref has given a borderline close decision to a so called big team because that is what he genuinely thought was the correct decision at the time.

Problem is fans like ours jump on any close decisions big teams get and assume they have got it because of that,when many many times that will not be the case,so yes of course it will have happened before but no where near as widespread as fans make out,sorry to bring it up again but as the Chelsea Burnley game clearer shows.

This big team bias is just a assumption based of irrational football fans
It certainly exists, if you were to leave your perfect world and open your eyes, you will see it.
You are the complete opposite of the fans you mention because you seem like the type never to criticise a referee. You are biased - just in the favour of the referee.
 
It actually was better for us. I'd rather Wes Brown went off than JOS. To me Wes is finished, too slow and too many lapses in concentration.
 
It certainly exists, if you were to leave your perfect world and open your eyes, you will see it.
You are the complete opposite of the fans you mention because you seem like the type never to criticise a referee. You are biased - just in the favour of the referee.

Problem is because fans are biased towards their team means there are irrational and don't think of the bigger picture

I wonder if Chelsea fans agree with you that they get most decisions I doubt it somehow,all fans of all clubs think they get a raw deal from refs,can't all be right.

Surely you must admit every time a big club gets a decision there is a possibility that the ref just genuinely thinks that is the right decision.

TBF I never said it didn't exist trying to see your side of the argument,and agree it will have happened before,my point was no where near as widespread as some irrational fans think it is.
 
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Sometimes its best to say nothing. He has made it worse by what he said. Its such a glaring mistake, what can be said?
I'm pleased its worked well for us though and hopefully John O Shea notches on Tuesday to expose the bad decision even more.

And now it would have been best to say nothing. He's fucked up, but sounds like he can't win either way.

You are clinging onto that Burnley game, aren't ya?! The refs favour the big teams, everyone knows that. Its the same in La Liga. You must be green as grass if you think otherwise.

If by 'clinging on' you mean first time I've mentioned it then yes :lol:

Aye, they've decided on something that absolutely hasn't been said and are now piping each other off on that basis. Yak.

*Spit* btw.

Except for the actual thread title and whole basis for the other thread, you could be right.

Cocksucking because we agree with each other :lol: I see AJ liked your post, what a cocksucker.
 
And now it would have been best to say nothing. He's fucked up, but sounds like he can't win either way.



If by 'clinging on' you mean first time I've mentioned it then yes :lol:



Except for the actual thread title and whole basis for the other thread, you could be right.

Cocksucking because we agree with each other :lol: I see AJ liked your post, what a cocksucker.
:lol: I cant help it if you can't, or won't, grasp a simple concept ... still, that thread title eh?

He liked it eh? its a good job you spotted that ... you're like a laser :D
 
That done my head in yesterday stood there watching that game the amount of fouls he committed .How the hell he did not get a yellow on the supposed totting up process :evil::evil:
Especially as 2 or 3 were straight yellow cards anyway nevermind the totting up process!

Certainly helps if your defensive midfielder can do 8 fouls and not get booked. Cattermole has done 10 fouls this season and got 9 cards!
 
Yeah agree and seems to getting worse,rightly or wrongly the correct decision was made somewhere along the line yesterday,I.e one of our players deserved to get sent off and a pen against us,yet for some it is apparently another example of us not getting anything from refs,like you say embarrassing.
I'm pretty sure the rules state that you send the player off that committed the foul. To say everything is fine because we went a player down so no harm done is the only embarrassing thing here. We get sweet F-all off refs, has has been proven week on week.
 
I'm pretty sure the rules state that you send the player off that committed the foul. To say everything is fine because we went a player down so no harm done is the only embarrassing thing here. We get sweet F-all off refs, has has been proven week on week.

Beggars belief it does ,we deserved to get a man sent off and a pen against us,yet people are still using it as another example of us getting nowt as you say.

Sorry I forgot refs only hate Sunderland and like all other teams we play against FFS
 
I'm pretty sure the rules state that you send the player off that committed the foul. To say everything is fine because we went a player down so no harm done is the only embarrassing thing here. We get sweet F-all off refs, has has been proven week on week.
AC Mack and Voice of fair play - give them Mike Riley's job.
 
I read this and still can't believe you can't grasp what people are saying. :lol:

It's like Arthur Dent and the f***ing whelk in a supernova.:lol:

Of course I can grasp what people are saying,however the bottom line is it was a pen and a sending off whichever way you look at,can actually see people's point on the instance even though disagree,but cannot see it as another example to compare with the rest.

There is no way the argument people are making is their true opinion because if it happened exactly the same at the other end the very same people would be making a argument that it was a pen and sending off I am convinced of that.
 
Of course I can grasp what people are saying,however the bottom line is it was a pen and a sending off whichever way you look at,can actually see people's point on the instance even though disagree,but cannot see it as another example to compare with the rest.
But by posting this, you're quite clearly not grasping what people are saying. It's painful.
 
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