TBF to Roger East


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I'm not disagreeing - just patting down those that for some reason feel that we have been on the wrong end of things here. If I was Hull and saw O'Shea and Brown both playing I would think it was disgarceful (probably wont happen down to Brown's fitness)



Acid wit and sarcasm acting as a smokescreen for not having the slightest clue about football.
:lol: Soccer.

Many a time a sending off will be a matter of opinion as this board has proved lots of times

And when you have only a split second to form that opinion mistakes will be made
:lol: yes.
 
Think that's my point mate the game is simply too fast for the human eye,players too good at cheating making dives look like fouls,that extremely difficult for refs to be certain of anything,therefore a lot of decisions are educated guesses because with one look and split second to decide your instinct and first look is all you have got.

When a ref is not sure of pen decision and does not give anything certain people complain that he should book the player for diving so he can't win see,gives nothing because not sure and still gets criticised.

I do agree too many mistakes are made that is due to the difficulty of the job not the standard.

The very fact nobody could name very few good refs over the last 30 years just goes to show near enough impossible for refs nowadays to be seen as good.

Help is needed in the form of technology that is clear as day IMO.



No,surely you are not disputing some sending offs are more clear than others?

Referees are crying out for help, you are right. The sooner technology comes in the better.
 
Also the grey area with offsides don't help linos. Daylight, interfering with play etc.
Lets go back to the way it was. If you're offside, you're offside.
 
Also the grey area with offsides don't help linos. Daylight, interfering with play etc.
Lets go back to the way it was. If you're offside, you're offside.

Please no. Back 4s moving up in an organised line, arms raised playing teams offside, even more stoppages and still some mistakes. Keep it as it is and accept there will be some times they get it wrong.
 
Please no. Back 4s moving up in an organised line, arms raised playing teams offside, even more stoppages and still some mistakes. Keep it as it is and accept there will be some times they get it wrong.
I take it you were an attacking player mate?
I was a defender, second phase and all that must be horrible to defend against. Theres some clever players who stand offside then come alive second phase.
 
I take it you were an attacking player mate?
I was a defender, second phase and all that must be horrible to defend against. Theres some clever players who stand offside then come alive second phase.

I know. I think that's good for the game even if it is horrible for defenders. Yeah I was an attacking player ;)
 
I think people are being a bit harsh regarding East's statement. OK, he hasn't gone as far as saying "I made a mistake" but at least he's explained what he perceived at the time and why he did what he did. That's usually what people ask for from the refs.

It's a fuck up but I can understand how he got to the conclusion he did.
 
Last week v Hull it was a clear red card, last man, no other defenders and a playing actually stretching out to reach Graham.

Do you mean Lescott and West Brom? They're both tough calls for me. I can see why both were adjudged as they were, but also that either could have gone the other way.

It is absolutely impossible to know what would have happened if been at the other end,but I am sick of this pathetic feeling sorry for ourselves,you seen last week Burnley get all the wrong decisions against Chelsea because the ref just went with his instincts and first look,nothing to do with big club etc.

Aye, imagine if it was Matic with the tackle on Barnes and Barnes got up and reacted like Matic and got the red card. Absolute guarantee that people would have been saying that there's no way that would have happened if it was the other way around.
 
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Please no. Back 4s moving up in an organised line, arms raised playing teams offside, even more stoppages and still some mistakes. Keep it as it is and accept there will be some times they get it wrong.

Yeah agree, would not want to go back to the days when a team set up like George Graham's Arsenal win the league

Do you mean Lescott and West Brom? They're both tough calls for me. I can see why both were adjudged as they were, but also that either could have gone the other way.



Aye, imagine if it was Matic with the tackle on Barnes and Barnes got up and reacted like Matic and got the red card. Absolute guarantee that people would have been saying that there's no way that would have happened if it was the other way around.

Yeah agree mate sick of this everybody hates Sunderland shit.

According to some fans on here we get bad decisions from certain refs on purpose.

The media hate and give us no coverage even if we won the league.

All England managers hate Sunderland and never pick our players.

I take it you were an attacking player mate?
I was a defender, second phase and all that must be horrible to defend against. Theres some clever players who stand offside then come alive second phase.

I would rather see goals and more entertainment than boring offside trap,and if mistakes are made so be it.

Surely you would rather watch teams like Man City then some teams like years ago,like I say Arsenal under George Graham.
 
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Yeah agree, would not want to go back to the days when a team set up like George Graham's Arsenal win the league



Yeah agree mate sick of this everybody hates Sunderland shit.

According to some fans on here we get bad decisions from certain refs on purpose.

The media hate and give us no coverage even if we won the league.

All England managers hate Sunderland and never pick our players.



I would rather see goals and more entertainment than boring offside trap,and if mistakes are made so be it.

Surely you would rather watch teams like Man City then some teams like years ago,like I say Arsenal under George Graham.

It's embarrassing tbh.

This really irks me though. A penalty was given so how was a goalscoring opportunity denied? You don't get a better opportunity than a penalty

How would you change this, out of interest? Perhaps only a red card if it's going to be a clear goal, as opposed to just an opportunity. But take out the rule and you'll get players deliberately hacking down attackers for a penalty when they're last man, knowing they won't get a red card.
 
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