TBF to Roger East


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I switched on the TV to see Shearer, Linekar and Guillit talking about it on MotD and it clearly shows O'Shea was the one who went in. Brown was nowhere near.

Anyway, you can't have two players surely tackle a player at the same time. One has to make the challenge. It has to be one or the other.

Not sure what you definition of nowhere near is?
 
He was that desperate to point to the spot he wasn't that bothered who had to go as a consequence.
Clearly caught up in the excitement.
It must have been killing him resisting the urge to punch the air in celebration when rooney scored the penalty

I know Browns leg defo touches the man utd player
So what, whether there is contact or not isn't the issue. Did Brown impede him? NO.
Did O' Shea? Yes.
Did the referee have a clue? NO CHANCE.
 
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Apart from the obvious goal scoring bit, I agree. If Wes & O'Shea were both there, there had to be potential cover.

Penalty & book O'Shea should have been the call. No way could the ref call a penalty against Brown as he couldn't possibly see if there was definitely a foul.

Youb can see with your own eyes what was deserved. A foull by OShea
Apart from the obvious goal scoring bit, I agree. If Wes & O'Shea were both there, there had to be potential cover.

Penalty & book O'Shea should have been the call. No way could the ref call a penalty against Brown as he couldn't possibly see if there was definitely a foul.
He was that desperate to point to the spot he wasn't that bothered who had to go as a consequence.
Clearly caught up in the excitement.
It must have been killing him resisting the urge to punch the air in celebration when rooney scored the penalty


So what, whether there is contact or not isn't the issue. Did Brown impede him? NO.
Did O' Shea? Yes.
Did the referee have a clue? NO CHANCE.

Another pathetic, biased knacker. Was their player fouled? Yes. Did it deny a clear golalscoring opportunity? Yes. Was a penalty and a sending off a correct decision? WTF are you moaning about man?

If East sent off the wrong man does this not go down as one in our favour considering OShea has probably been our best player this season? Man U were robbed and we were dead jammy.
 
Youb can see with your own eyes what was deserved. A foull by OShea



Another pathetic, biased knacker. Was their player fouled? Yes. Did it deny a clear golalscoring opportunity? Yes. Was a penalty and a sending off a correct decision? WTF are you moaning about man?

If East sent off the wrong man does this not go down as one in our favour considering OShea has probably been our best player this season? Man U were robbed and we were dead jammy.
Would it have been given at the other end? NO.
Luckily O'Shea fouled him, but the fact he thought it was Brown shows he never had a clue
 
If we appeal and win I can't see how the card can transfer to OShea as the ref has made a statement saying he saw what happened and didn't want to send him off.
 
There is absolutely no defence for the referee. To be fair, he's done us a favour...if he'd sent of o'shea he'd be banned for the next few games but this way nether o'shea or brown will be suspended (unless the fa show an unprecedented level of fuckwittery).
One game.
 
Would it have been given at the other end? NO.
Luckily O'Shea fouled him, but the fact he thought it was Brown shows he never had a clue


So the reason you are unhappy is that you accept a Sunderland player fouled an opposition player in the penalty area resulting in a penalty. You accept that the foul was preventing a direct goal scoring opportunity which means a sending off. In summary you accept that a penalty and a red card are the right things in those circumstances.

However you are furious because 'it wouldn't have happened at the other end'.
 
He was that desperate to point to the spot he wasn't that bothered who had to go as a consequence.
Clearly caught up in the excitement.
It must have been killing him resisting the urge to punch the air in celebration when rooney scored the penalty


So what, whether there is contact or not isn't the issue. Did Brown impede him? NO.
Did O' Shea? Yes.
Did the referee have a clue? NO CHANCE.

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It was a penalty and a sending off. He just sent off the wrong man.

We know the ref fucked up, but he wasn't biased against us in any way over the decision.

Would it have been given at the other end? NO.

The last defence of a desperate man.
 
So the reason you are unhappy is that you accept a Sunderland player fouled an opposition player in the penalty area resulting in a penalty. You accept that the foul was preventing a direct goal scoring opportunity which means a sending off. In summary you accept that a penalty and a red card are the right things in those circumstances.

However you are furious because 'it wouldn't have happened at the other end'.
I'm certain it wouldn't happen at the other end. You're right in saying the net result was correct - a Sunderland player being dismissed and a penalty being awarded. I don't dispute that. However the process of that decision was totally incorrect. That should be a massive cause for concern going forward and it raises a lot of questions about Roger East and what was going on in his head yesterday.
 
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It was a penalty and a sending off. He just sent off the wrong man.

We know the ref fucked up, but he wasn't biased against us in any way over the decision.



The last defence of a desperate man.
Think most people on here admit that their player was fouled in the area resulting in a pen.
What is crap is the reaction of the ref a few hours after the match. He would have had time to watch the incident a few times but still decides to issue a statement containing lies and not admitting that he made a mistake. It's the arrogance of refs that piss people off.
It's a hard job and sure most people would accept it if they were honest afterwards.
Oh and some of the other decisions were shocking yesterday. How many times did Blind have to commit a foul before he got booked?
 
I'm certain it wouldn't happen at the other end. You're right in saying the net result was correct - a Sunderland player being dismissed and a penalty being awarded. I don't dispute that. However the process of that decision was totally incorrect. That should be a massive cause for concern going forward and it raises a lot of questions about Roger East and what was going on in his head yesterday.

Agreed if we appeal we may end up with both players getting away with it. How utterly jammy would that be? In terms of fortune there's only SAFC who can benefit here. Our best player, organiser and captain doesn't get sent off in the game and wont serve a suspension despite clearly giving away a penalty and denying a clear goal scoring opportunity.

How lucky are we?
 
Think most people on here admit that their player was fouled in the area resulting in a pen.
What is crap is the reaction of the ref a few hours after the match. He would have had time to watch the incident a few times but still decides to issue a statement containing lies and not admitting that he made a mistake. It's the arrogance of refs that piss people off.
It's a hard job and sure most people would accept it if they were honest afterwards.
Oh and some of the other decisions were shocking yesterday. How many times did Blind have to commit a foul before he got booked?

Aye most people in here do, but check out the thread entitled 'not even a penna' or something along those lines :lol:

I agree about the ref's statement, you'd think after he'd seen it several times on a replay he'd be able to come out and say what really happened, and that he messed up. I still don't think he'd be forgiven as a lot of people are suggesting in here, but it would be a start.
 
Agreed if we appeal we may end up with both players getting away with it. How utterly jammy would that be? In terms of fortune there's only SAFC who can benefit here. Our best player, organiser and captain doesn't get sent off in the game and wont serve a suspension despite clearly giving away a penalty and denying a clear goal scoring opportunity.

How lucky are we?
Aye we have probably benefited from his mistake. O' Shea has been better than Brown. O'Shea is capable of playing 2 games in a week, question marks over Brown staying injury free. Like you say there's a chance both of them will be free from a ban which I'll be pleased about. What if O'Shea scores against Hull on Tuesday? I'll be delighted but will it be fair?!
The questions about East and his decision making still exists and his statement has only added fuel to the fire.
 
Just seen it :lol:

Even the wife said it's obvious and she knows everything
 
Ref's done us a favour. Definite penalty and red card. Sent the lesser of the two chuckle brothers off. No way will we appeal it as Brown wouldn't start two games in a week anyway. Thanks Rog.:D
 
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