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See the Keith Hackett link posted above

Obvious goal scoring opportunity. If the referee had felt Brown had a realistic chance of making a clean tackle from where he was then it would have been fair enough not to send the player off. The referee probably deemed that Brown would have to have legs like 'stretch Armstrong' in order to extend them in length and bend them around the legs of Falcao in order to do so.
 
Obvious goal scoring opportunity. If the referee had felt Brown had a realistic chance of making a clean tackle from where he was then it would have been fair enough not to send the player off. The referee probably deemed that Brown would have to have legs like 'stretch Armstrong' in order to extend them in length and bend them around the legs of Falcao in order to do so.
Hackett(the ex ref with benefit of replays) says not. Hmm, who to believe is correct?

By deemed you mean guessed
 
There is absolutely no defence for the referee. To be fair, he's done us a favour...if he'd sent of o'shea he'd be banned for the next few games but this way nether o'shea or brown will be suspended (unless the fa show an unprecedented level of fuckwittery).


haha, dont hold your breath
 
Reading through the thread again mate,it appears you personally never said it should not have been a pen,have been that busy arguing with other people on another thread who said it was not a pen that I never picked that up.

Guess humble pie is the order of the day.
Cheers mate, fair play.
Hopefully on Tuesday we're talking about how well we've played
 
I suppose it depends if you think Wes Brown was in a position to be "covering". We're usually told it's not a "clear goal-scoring opportunity" if there's another defender in the vicinity.

However, we shouldn't let this distract us from the fact the ref hasn't a clue what's gone on (he couldn't even get it right with two-hours to come up with an excuse) and has guessed in the favor of the mighty man utd, at old trafford. The laws clearly state that if he doesn't know (and he's proven to us all that he didn't), he can't give a decision.

Incidentaly, we didn't get the decision, in almost exactly the same circumstances, at Bradford. That was Kevin Friend though, so no one was surprised.

The standard of referring at the top level in England is a joke. That's the top and bottom of it.
 
All my life and still over40s now

The reason I thought goalscoring chance and sending off is IMO if he was never fouled would have scored.
But the ref said he saw the foul by O'Shea and decided to play on. He then sent Brown off for denying an obvious goalscoring opportunity which he was 100% convinced of, otherwise he shouldn't make that call.

So with your vast years of football playing experience, can you please explain how Wes Brown denies Falcao an OBVIOUS GOAL SCORING OPPORTUNITY?

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Just to help you out, the player should be in full control of the ball, heading towards goal, with no chance of a defender impeding his shot at goal.

Oh and a foul by the person you're sending off would be a handy addition to the case in hand.
 
But the ref said he saw the foul by O'Shea and decided to play on. He then sent Brown off for denying an obvious goalscoring opportunity which he was 100% convinced of, otherwise he shouldn't make that call.

So with your vast years of football playing experience, can you please explain how Wes Brown denies Falcao an OBVIOUS GOAL SCORING OPPORTUNITY?

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Just to help you out, the player should be in full control of the ball, heading towards goal, with no chance of a defender impeding his shot at goal.

Oh and a foul by the person you're sending off would be a handy addition to the case in hand.

According to who? Further evidence that Danny Grahams wasnt a red card saying that he hadnt even touched the ball then. Regardless Falcao is past OShea there and a split second away from a shot at goal with only the keeper to beat. Brown isn't even attempting a tackle and has no time to react.
 
But the ref said he saw the foul by O'Shea and decided to play on. He then sent Brown off for denying an obvious goalscoring opportunity which he was 100% convinced of, otherwise he shouldn't make that call.

So with your vast years of football playing experience, can you please explain how Wes Brown denies Falcao an OBVIOUS GOAL SCORING OPPORTUNITY?

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Just to help you out, the player should be in full control of the ball, heading towards goal, with no chance of a defender impeding his shot at goal.

Oh and a foul by the person you're sending off would be a handy addition to the case in hand.

Post 181 perfectly sums it up IMO

Plus think very difficult in today's fast paced game with the all the cheating going on that a ref will ever be 100% convinced of anything ,can just go off his instincts and one look and spilt second to decide,because that is all he has.
 
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Yep. Time and time again you hear people saying they'd be happy if the referee at least came out and explained his decision. He's done that and he's still getting pelters.

Perhaps it has something to do with the fact that his story is about as honest as a party political broadcast.
 
If you expecting a ref only to give things when they are only a 100%certain then he won't be able to give a lot

If his is only 80-90% certain of things he had still got to give it. Would rather a ref get 8-9 out of ten things right than 8-9 out of ten things wrong

Wouldbe a ridiculous situation if a ref never gave a penalty then claimed afterwards he was only 90 % certain so couldn't give it
 
If you expecting a ref only to give things when they are only a 100%certain then he won't be able to give a lot

If his is only 80-90% certain of things he had still got to give it. Would rather a ref get 8-9 out of ten things right than 8-9 out of ten things wrong

Wouldbe a ridiculous situation if a ref never gave a penalty then claimed afterwards he was only 90 % certain so couldn't give it

I agree ref doesn't have the option of doing nothing.
 
If you expecting a ref only to give things when they are only a 100%certain then he won't be able to give a lot

If his is only 80-90% certain of things he had still got to give it. Would rather a ref get 8-9 out of ten things right than 8-9 out of ten things wrong

Wouldbe a ridiculous situation if a ref never gave a penalty then claimed afterwards he was only 90 % certain so couldn't give it

I agree. Always annoys me when people come out with that 'he has to be 100% sure' nonsense.
 
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