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10 Gary Rowells said:
It is beginning to look like a feeder club scenario for L1 and L2. And we know that it doesn't take much to fall through the divisions.
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That was the bare bones of the suggestion that our CEO dropped his hoggers for. If this new lot have anything about them both him and Parkinson should be gone. Short term small time thinking like that have no place at our club if we have a shred of ambition.
 
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Dilligaf60 said:
Written by a dyed in the wool salad dodger if I’m not mistaken. Now I’m reluctant to cast aspersions on his professional integrity but it wouldn’t be the first time one of the soapdodging scumbags has let his heart rule his head in such matters.
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I wasn't saying I necessarily agree with the article. However, I think we need to be careful in dismissing articles because we don't want them to be true or because the author is a mag. We've been there before and they turned out to be right.
 
Steeeeed said:
I wasn't saying I necessarily agree with the article. However, I think we need to be careful in dismissing articles because we don't want them to be true or because the author is a mag. We've been there before and they turned out to be right.
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Very true. I have to admit I find it very difficult to trust anything I read in, or hear from the media these days mate.
 
Betty Swollocks said:
Was it an error on your part when you added the reported share allocation of 20% Sartori 15% Donald and 5% Methven and got 51% or do you think Sartori will look to obtain an additional 11% of the shares?

If so does anyone believe that Sartori spent the last 6 months convincing KLD to purchase 60% of the club just to buy 11% from him once it’s complete?
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Purely for discussion purposes I was just asking a hypothetical question about the impending change in shareholding’s in the light of the recently announced investment in SAFC that was publicised last Friday in certain media outlets.
Do you know for a fact that KLD is purchasing 60% of the club?
There’s a lot of discussion about who will have what percentage shareholding when the changes take place but we haven’t seen definitive figures as yet. Or have you?
The only thing that seems clear so far is that Satori, Methven and Donald are all staying on whatever changes happen and I’m intrigued to see whether, between them, they retain a shareholding that will effectively render them still in charge of all major decisions making or whether the real power to move us forward quickly will be in the shape of whatever new blood is coming into SAFC.
Of the three current owners Sartori will presumably have the biggest shareholding and will fall on the one hand towards people he knows well in SD and CM, and on the other towards the new people that he has been instrumental in bringing in. He seems key to the whole scenario.
With Sartori’s ongoing involvement in Uruguayan politics it seems that one of the most important decisions will be to appoint a senior figure to oversee operations on a daily basis on the behalf of the main shareholders in the new set up.
 
The truth is, people know pretty much nothing about what is going on. People are w*nking themselves raw over this and criticising anyone who doesn't do the same. There is very little fact to deal with at the moment. No one has a clue about the share structure or what sartoris allegiances or intentions are. Its all speculation and considering the disaster that has unfolded from the last takeover, maybe a little scepticism is healthy this time. That is, of course, until given reason to believe this is legit.
 
Kermit said:
The truth is, people know pretty much nothing about what is going on. People are w*nking themselves raw over this and criticising anyone who doesn't do the same. There is very little fact to deal with at the moment. No one has a clue about the share structure or what sartoris allegiances or intentions are. Its all speculation and considering the disaster that has unfolded from the last takeover, maybe a little scepticism is healthy this time. That is, of course, until given reason to believe this is legit.
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I’ll just wait and see what transpires this time.
 
Sons of The Wear said:
Purely for discussion purposes I was just asking a hypothetical question about the impending change in shareholding’s in the light of the recently announced investment in SAFC that was publicised last Friday in certain media outlets.
Do you know for a fact that KLD is purchasing 60% of the club?
There’s a lot of discussion about who will have what percentage shareholding when the changes take place but we haven’t seen definitive figures as yet. Or have you?
The only thing that seems clear so far is that Satori, Methven and Donald are all staying on whatever changes happen and I’m intrigued to see whether, between them, they retain a shareholding that will effectively render them still in charge of all major decisions making or whether the real power to move us forward quickly will be in the shape of whatever new blood is coming into SAFC.
Of the three current owners Sartori will presumably have the biggest shareholding and will fall on the one hand towards people he knows well in SD and CM, and on the other towards the new people that he has been instrumental in bringing in. He seems key to the whole scenario.
With Sartori’s ongoing involvement in Uruguayan politics it seems that one of the most important decisions will be to appoint a senior figure to oversee operations on a daily basis on the behalf of the main shareholders in the new set up.
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The percentages are only what have been reported by various media outlets, they’re all similar with only Methven’s % varying from 5 to 6%. I haven’t seen any other reports of different allocations.

I just can’t see see Sartori bringing this kid in only to buy his shares from him later to increase the 3 stooges allocation, why not just buy the amount he wants from the off?

I know there’s massive distrust of the current owners but some of the theories that pop up on here lately are just madness. Looking for ( potential) problems where there aren’t any. They’d have us believe that the original 3 will buy more shares ( more money ) to take control and fuck us over out of spite and in turn loose all their investments. Not even Donald and Tory boy are that stupid.
 
Mickdundee said:
He seemed genuinely enthusiastic when he first came, put a few million in and started talking about links to Uruguayan clubs etc. Then less than a year later he disappeared never to be heard form again until now. To me that points to a fall out with Donald.

Even if it isn’t, what do Donald and Methven have to gain in trying to meddle in a club in which they hold a minority share? They are clearly wanting to keep shares in order to make more money later - get someone else to complete the job they failed and reap the benefits of the increase in the value of their shares.
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I think it's just a scheduling thing with a bit of a skewed timeline for his involvement - I don't think he particularly disappeared as such and now he's back. When they came in, I'm pretty sure they said the plan was for SD and CM to do the running for the first bit and then JS would become more involved for the bigger financial push when we were starting to challenge up toward the top of the Championship. Now is probably about when they hoped that would be happening, 2-3 years in, but their shortcomings have meant that isn't the case and we've actually gone backwards with them in charge. He's potentially getting more involved "when" we were led to believe, just not "where" we thought we'd be, so it's a plan B.
 
Betty Swollocks said:
The percentages are only what have been reported by various media outlets, they’re all similar with only Methven’s % varying from 5 to 6%. I haven’t seen any other reports of different allocations.

I just can’t see see Sartori bringing this kid in only to buy his shares from him later to increase the 3 stooges allocation, why not just buy the amount he wants from the off?

I know there’s massive distrust of the current owners but some of the theories that pop up on here lately are just madness. Looking for ( potential) problems where there aren’t any. They’d have us believe that the original 3 will buy more shares ( more money ) to take control and fuck us over out of spite and in turn loose all their investments. Not even Donald and Tory boy are that stupid.
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Can you cut and paste "the kid"/his family being reported as taking 60% please.
Its common sense that SD and CM are hanging around because they know if someone gets it right at SAFC that there's ££££ for them to ultimately walk away with.
 
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Sons of The Wear said:
Can you cut and paste "the kid"/his family being reported as taking 60% please.
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No one knows that the split will be. There are rumours of other investors. I wouldn't be surprised to see a new investment vehicle owned by up to four people including Sartori (who would move his shares into it from his company Avesa Corp, which holds them at the moment) holding 80% of the shares as a consortium.
 
Sons of The Wear said:
Can you cut and paste "the kid"/his family being reported as taking 60% please.
Its common sense that SD and CM are hanging around because they know if someone gets it right at SAFC that there's ££££ for them to ultimately walk away with.
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Its basically all come from this mate as far as i can see

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That ghost of arca helmet banging on about it. Interestingly, sb nation appear to have published another article the day after appearing to backtrack from the 60% thing

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With most story’s running with Donald 15%, Methven 5% and Sartori retaining his 20%, the 60% remaining you’d guess would be taken up by the only other person mentioned, KLD.

makes more sense than the 51% you came up with from nowhere to stimulate a debate.
 
Betty Swollocks said:
With most story’s running with Donald 15%, Methven 5% and Sartori retaining his 20%, the 60% remaining you’d guess would be taken up by the only other person mentioned, KLD.

makes more sense than the 51% you came up with from nowhere to stimulate a debate.
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Most Stories are running with Sartori heading a consortium, him retaining 20% makes no sense at all if thats the case, himself coming in with backer(s) and having equal slice of an 80% cut makes the most sense
 
6inarow said:
Most Stories are running with Sartori heading a consortium, him retaining 20% makes no sense at all if thats the case, himself coming in with backer(s) and having equal slice of an 80% cut makes the most sense
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There's at least one Storey who doesn't think that's happening. :lol:
 
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