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Who employed jack ross though?
At the end of the day the manager picks the team, decides the formation and the tactics and that either wins or loses matches. Are you suggesting that if the buck stops with the owner then clubs should just do away with managers altogether and have the owner responsible for team selections and tactics?
 
Owners have been shite as 99% on here will agree.

Regards Ross. He did fail but would he of if stumpy had listened when he said "no" to buying Grigg.

All eggs were in one basket and all cracked.
 
At the end of the day the manager picks the team, decides the formation and the tactics and that either wins or loses matches. Are you suggesting that if the buck stops with the owner then clubs should just do away with managers altogether and have the owner responsible for team selections and tactics?
No what i am saying is it was donald who employed ross who then failed. He chose to pick a negative dull manager who hadnt a clue about the english transfer market
 
I have a feeling that they waste their time reporting what happens on here while we waste our time reporting what happens on there.

Bingo. I don't think we've collectively been harsh on the likes of @prehab26 or @Iain, barring a couple of people which you can expect on a board of thousands.

I certainly appreciate them telling us things the way they do, largely verbatim rather than veiled hints and personal interpretation. No need for any in-fighting.
 
No what i am saying is it was donald who employed ross who then failed. He chose to pick a negative dull manager who hadnt a clue about the english transfer market

Sadly those employed to head recruitment had no idea about the English transfer market either.
 
I cannot stand SD and want him out of the club ASAP. However, i put the blame for not getting promoted in the first season firmly on ross. He gave him good money at this level and he blew it. Whether he should have appointed ross in the first place is a different matter, but you could see his thinking appointing an up and coming manager who could grow with the club. Ross comes across quite well and projects a good image. I could see him interviewing well. My problem with SD is his behaviour from the second season til now.
 
The recruitment team said no to paying the quoted fee for Grigg and were overruled. On Netflix.

What about the rest of the dross they brought in?

Edit: I'm not sure if it's quoted but I'm fairly sure Maguire and Wyke must be signings by the owners, CM and SD raved about Maguire.
I cannot stand SD and want him out of the club ASAP. However, i put the blame for not getting promoted in the first season firmly on ross. He gave him good money at this level and he blew it. Whether he should have appointed ross in the first place is a different matter, but you could see his thinking appointing an up and coming manager who could grow with the club. Ross comes across quite well and projects a good image. I could see him interviewing well. My problem with SD is his behaviour from the second season til now.

I'm not convinced many of the signings were Ross's, I have zero proof to it either, just a thought. His time was up by that Lincoln game, I've seen people label him as an absolute failure which is just ridiculous given the circumstances around the job when he took over.
 
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At the end of the day the manager picks the team, decides the formation and the tactics and that either wins or loses matches. Are you suggesting that if the buck stops with the owner then clubs should just do away with managers altogether and have the owner responsible for team selections and tactics?
Jack Ross should never have been appointed in what was one of the most important seasons in our history. He had zero knowledge of English football, his contacts would have been minimal and had never managed in any kind of pressure environment. He also didnt know the other teams,the players, how they set up and surrounded himself with his mates from Scotland.
He was clearly a good guy, the players seemed to like him but he developed no identity or pattern of play. It was going from bad to worse and I honestly think we would have fallen out of play offs with him in charge. The buck starts with the owner for appointing him but Ross had a squad that should easily have finished in top 2. There was more than enough quality. McLaughlin, o9, oviedo,mcgeady, Leadbitter, honeyman, morgan, maguire, cattermole, maja, grigg, power. The rest of squad were decent too. Enough to get promoted
 
So is the failure attributable to Ross or SD?

My position is simple. In my company, If we hire someone to a vital role and they don't work out, or the company doesn't achieve it's potential because of that employee, the failure is ultimately on me as the owner who made the judgement. No ifs, no buts, I get the plaudits for our achievements, I also must take responsibility when we fail. The employee's failure is always more on me than them, because it is my job to ensure that does not happen.

Donald underestimated the urgency and challenge to get out of League One. He could have aimed higher, and the outcome may have been different. His priority was affordability over quality and he made a poor judgement. He got that wrong, the fault is with him.
 
Have you even read the post!? It isn't defending anyone, it's a fact when we finished bottom of the Championship so he didn't exactly inherit a team full of championship and premiership players. But you crack on and spout the usual comments

Oh do fuck off man :lol: Some right precious bairns on here these days. Look at my response again.

As you clearly don’t enjoy playing with any humour, I’ll lower myself to your level on this one.

Maybe have the balls to admit you tend to call most things wrong. You’ve been on the wrong side of history with your comments pretty much since you arrived on here. Remarkable really. We all call things wrong, I do all the time. However have you ever called anything right? You always defend the indefensible and then just dig in. Maybe have a think one day as to why you’re “always” hugely in the minority on pretty much everything. Your ego will likely just assume it’s because we don’t see the things you do...

Anyway crack on
 
Disagree mate. Sure, the owner employs the manager but the manager picks the team, decides on formation and tactics.

Don't get me wrong, SD has fucked up royally but blaming him for not getting promotion at the first attempt is probably a bit harsh seeing as we were really only 1 goal away.
Oh there’s enough blame to go around. Always has been at safc. I posted on here about 15yrs ago that a Latin translation of “enough blame to go around” should be the club motto. Even had a few versions of it from other posters who agreed.
 
Oh do fuck off man :lol: Some right precious bairns on here these days. Look at my response again.

As you clearly don’t enjoy playing with any humour, I’ll lower myself to your level on this one.

Maybe have the balls to admit you tend to call most things wrong. You’ve been on the wrong side of history with your comments pretty much since you arrived on here. Remarkable really. We all call things wrong, I do all the time. However have you ever called anything right? You always defend the indefensible and then just dig in. Maybe have a think one day as to why you’re “always” hugely in the minority on pretty much everything. Your ego will likely just assume it’s because we don’t see the things you do...

Anyway crack on
Get some work done you.
 
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