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T20 is killing Proper Cricket
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Steak Pie
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There is a massive difference between the board scheduling England games round the IPL, and a player picking and choosing when he plays for England.
If the board had scheduled around the IPL as they're doing now then he wouldn't have had to try and pick and choose. The board have been allowed our ODI captain to miss games but in order to play IPL since. It seems KP had a point after all.
Outspoken, brash, cocky and probably bit of a dick at times but he was f***ing good!
He was. But he could never be as good as he thought he was
Nothing wrong with confidence in own ability providing you can back it up and in fairness to KP he did.
viccarlton
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And South African
mackembhoy
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IPL now is the third biggest sports promotion in the world.
NFL is 23 billion
Prem 13 billion
IPL 8 billion
Not gonna change now, horse has bolted
Nobody wants to pay 8 billion to watch test cricket.
As much as I wish they did.
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Yep, not an exclusive club in the England dressing room that mind.
viccarlton
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Unfortunately you're right.
I have noticed that a lot of the new generation of kids coming in, have indeed become hooked on the T20 format. Granted it probably has more exposure, but in an era of XBox's and PS4's, we are going to struggle to keep a kid's attention for a full day of Test Cricket.
I am as strong an advocate for test cricket being the pinnacle as anyone, but I do think we have to move with the times. The current balance is fine for me. I think everyone has their respective T20 leagues set up, and all seem to be doing pretty well, and test cricket is ticking over ok in terms of keeping people playing, barring probably the West Indies although they looked ok last week.
This debate is probably a little skewed, as the limited number of people reading a cricket forum on RTG, are likely to be more purist than most, so will naturally favour test cricket, but I think stepping back and looking at the bigger picture of simply getting people to play cricket, we must embrace a balance.
I am as strong an advocate for test cricket being the pinnacle as anyone, but I do think we have to move with the times. The current balance is fine for me. I think everyone has their respective T20 leagues set up, and all seem to be doing pretty well, and test cricket is ticking over ok in terms of keeping people playing, barring probably the West Indies although they looked ok last week.
This debate is probably a little skewed, as the limited number of people reading a cricket forum on RTG, are likely to be more purist than most, so will naturally favour test cricket, but I think stepping back and looking at the bigger picture of simply getting people to play cricket, we must embrace a balance.
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FTECB ffs
Voice of fair play
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It is what they should have done all along,it was inevitable our quality players would get envious of similar quality players from diffrent countries making vast sums of money in the IPL.
While they were stuck playing chamionship cricket on a cold April afternoon,while the other players no better then them were making vast sums of money in packed out stadiums with fanastic atsmospheres.
Making they thought England players preferred playing "proper cricket' over that !!!
Steak Pie
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If you sign a central contract you have to bite the bullet, he was happy to take the money (and the bonus he got from Adidas from being centrally contracted) so he's available for England above everything else.
Granted it's taken the ECB a while to catch up, but that doesn't excuse Pietersen's petulance.
Voice of fair play
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Which ever way you look at, it was naive of the ECB to expect talented England players not to be interested in the IPL.
Especially when every other country including those with contracts with that country were allowing their players to play in the IPL.
forzamilansafc
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T20 > tests
Voice of fair play
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That is the most sensible post I have read on this subject.
It's about getting the right balance,but at the same time embracing change,and getting more people in this competive world to actually watch and play cricket!
Yeah but you prefer Jupiler to Westmalle
Voice of fair play
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Surely that totally depends on the situation, some of the tests in the sub-continent over the years have been incredibly boring to watch, with dead wickets and slow scoring and inevitable draws.
Everyone to their own I guess but I can't understand anybody wanting to watch say Hameed bat for over after over,rather than watch a Jason Roy or a Jos Buttler in full flow.
Surely the former players are more entertaining to watch?
Equally a compelling Ashes series will always be more entertaining and better to watch than any limited over game.
Steak Pie
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Wasn't really like that though, the future tours through to 2016 were negotiated way back in 2009 and the ICC didn't schedule any windows for any T20 tournaments. Wasn't really down the the ECB.
KP played over a 100 tests, well over 100 ODIs as well as a lot of 20/20 cricket for England. There can't be many more players with more England apoeances than him or as successful. KP saw what was coming in regards to 20/20 stuff and it's importance long before the ECB it seems, his circumstances have certainly played a part in the ECBs rethink over how they deal with the IPL. If other players like broad, prior and Swann (who all put themselves in the pot but nobody was interested) had become involved then maybe the ECB would've acted sooner and all the bitterness that sorrounded KP may not have materialised.
The money to be earned in IPL is astronomical so when someone like KP has the chance to earn it and he sees other countries allowing it then he's obviously not going to be too happy.
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