Sunderland Vs Newcastle.Are we really that much better?


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I posted a thread with my fears before the 5-1 and was lambasted for it. October 31 came around and i was soon proved very right. Please view it below:

http://www.readytogo.net/smb/showthread.php?t=519266&highlight=

"Face it Barton and Nolan are better midfielders than anything we have

Read more: http://www.readytogo.net/smb/showthread.php?t=519266&highlight=#ixzz1VAu3U66X"

Newtonlee2 27th August 2010....................

.....Oh how right i was to be proven. Nolan went on to score 12 goals and Barton was one of the oustanding midfielders of the year. They both dominated us in the derby and it was totally men vs boys.

The saying i 'told you so' doesn't do make up for all the abuse i took and i expect to take the same amount with this thread.

So the question is are we really that much better?

Lets have a look at the likely starting XIs:

Newc Sund
Krul Mignolet Draw

Simpson Bardsley Draw

Collocini Ferdinand Newcastle

Taylor Brown Sunderland

R Taylor Richardson Sunderland

Barton El Mohammady Newcastle

Tiote Cattermole Newcastle

Cabaye Colback Draw (but thats being kind as ligue 1 winning french international against a young lad)

Guiterrez Larsson Draw

Ba Sessegnon (Hard to compare so i won't)

Ameobi Gyan Newcastle win but only against us

So what do we have here? 4 wins to Newcastle, 4 draws and 2 wins to Sunderland. Obviously only my opinion but i'm usually bang on the money.

Another summer and another chance to cement our status as North East top dogs sadly passed us by. I really really hope i'm wrong and we go on to stuff the horrible inbred c unts but again i just can't really see where we edge this???

What really worries is we are going to have a very young midfield against their experienced one YET AGAIN and we all know what happened last time! Bruce won't drop Elmo after his assist and we've seen him crumble in both previous derbies. He's not a big game player that lad i'm afraid.

Make no mistakes Barton will dominate and will be winding Cattermole up something rotten.

We still have a chance to do something about this. Put someone like Gardner into the mix and we suddenly have another twat in the middle with attitude and thats what you need to match Barton and co. Sorry Colback but i'd drop you for Vaughan.........very similar players but i think Vaughan's experience would help us a great deal against them.

I fear the writing was on the wall when Bruce picked his first XI for Liverpool. He doesn't learn and should always have been thinking ahead to the derby instead of firing young lads in there again when he saw how they wilted and hid in the demolition.

Haway Bruce and Quinn you still have a chance to sign a quality left winger and a decent striker. I'm sick of being second best to these twats up the road so do something about it please!
 
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I posted a thread with my fears before the 5-1 and was lambasted for it. October 31 came around and i was soon proved very right. Please view it below:

http://www.readytogo.net/smb/showthread.php?t=519266&highlight=

"Face it Barton and Nolan are better midfielders than anything we have

Read more: http://www.readytogo.net/smb/showthread.php?t=519266&highlight=#ixzz1VAu3U66X"

Newtonlee2 27th August 2010....................

.....Oh how right i was to be proven. Nolan went on to score 12 goals and Barton was one of the oustanding midfielders of the year. They both dominated us in the derby and it was totally men vs boys.

The saying i 'told you so' doesn't do make up for all the abuse i took and i expect to take the same amount with this thread.

So the question is are we really that much better?

Lets have a look at the likely starting XIs:

Newc Sund
Krul Mignolet Draw

Simpson Bardsley Draw

Collocini Ferdinand Newcastle

Taylor Brown Sunderland

R Taylor Richardson Sunderland

Barton El Mohammady Newcastle

Tiote Cattermole Newcastle

Cabaye Colback Draw (but thats being kind as ligue 1 winning french international against a young lad)

Guiterrez Larsson Draw

Ba Sessegnon (Hard to compare so i won't)

Ameobi Gyan Newcastle win but only against us

So what do we have here? 4 wins to Newcastle, 4 draws and 2 wins to Sunderland. Obviously only my opinion but i'm usually bang on he money.

Another summer and another chance to cement our status as North East top dogs sadly passed us by. I really really hope i'm wrong and we go on to stuff the horrible inbred c unts but again i just can't really see where we edge this???

What really worries is we are going to have a very young midfield against their experienced one YET AGAIN and we all know what happened last time! Bruce won't drop Elmo after his assist and we've seen him crumble in both previous derbies. He's not a big game player that lad i'm afraid.

Make no mistakes Barton will dominate and will be winding Cattermole up something rotten.

We still have a chance to do something about this. Put someone like Gardner into the mix and we suddenly have another twat in the middle with attitude and thats what you need to match Barton and co. Sorry Colback but i'd drop you for Vaughan.........very similar players but i think Vaughan's experience would help us a great deal against them.

I fear the writing was on the wall when Bruce picked his first XI for Liverpool. He doesn't learn and should always have been thinking ahead to the derby instead of firing young lads in there again when he saw how they wilted and hid in the demolition.

Haway Bruce and Quinn you still have a chance to sign a quality left winger and a decent striker. I'm sick of being second best to these twats up the road so do something about it please!

Not much between the two first XI's. We have the better bench.

Simply put, if we play well we can win.
 
The mistake in your 'expert view' is that you don't consider -
a) how the team plays together
b)home advantage
c) the revenge factor

These three factors will push us to victory even though many derby matches end in draws.
 
Prepared to stick my neck out and say our starting line up, bench and overall squad is much, much, much better. Their forward line consists of ameobi, lovenkrands and ba for fucks sake !!
 
Your post history would suggest that you're telling porkies in your signature in my opinion newtonlee2. If not then you have a very strange way of showing it.
 
compare all you like the fact is we finished higher than them and that is fact not opinion. Thats what you should gauge on. Yes our team has changed and theirs but our team has improved from last season and i think that's a universal opinion. Now if you compare last seasons teams ive no doubt you would have them come out on top yet we finished above them, how come?
 
Very generous towards Simpson - I'd rate Bardsley a much better RB. Also you copped out on Ba vs Sess where it's obvious we have the superior player.
Overall I'd rather have our team than theirs -
I still won't be confident mind but I never am for a derby match
 
I posted a thread with my fears before the 5-1 and was lambasted for it. October 31 came around and i was soon proved very right. Please view it below:

http://www.readytogo.net/smb/showthread.php?t=519266&highlight=

"Face it Barton and Nolan are better midfielders than anything we have

Read more: http://www.readytogo.net/smb/showthread.php?t=519266&highlight=#ixzz1VAu3U66X"

Newtonlee2 27th August 2010....................

.....Oh how right i was to be proven. Nolan went on to score 12 goals and Barton was one of the oustanding midfielders of the year. They both dominated us in the derby and it was totally men vs boys.

The saying i 'told you so' doesn't do make up for all the abuse i took and i expect to take the same amount with this thread.

So the question is are we really that much better?

Lets have a look at the likely starting XIs:

Newc Sund
Krul Mignolet Draw

Simpson Bardsley Draw

Collocini Ferdinand Newcastle

Taylor Brown Sunderland

R Taylor Richardson Sunderland

Barton El Mohammady Newcastle

Tiote Cattermole Newcastle

Cabaye Colback Draw (but thats being kind as ligue 1 winning french international against a young lad)

Guiterrez Larsson Draw

Ba Sessegnon (Hard to compare so i won't)

Ameobi Gyan Newcastle win but only against us

So what do we have here? 4 wins to Newcastle, 4 draws and 2 wins to Sunderland. Obviously only my opinion but i'm usually bang on the money.

Another summer and another chance to cement our status as North East top dogs sadly passed us by. I really really hope i'm wrong and we go on to stuff the horrible inbred c unts but again i just can't really see where we edge this???

What really worries is we are going to have a very young midfield against their experienced one YET AGAIN and we all know what happened last time! Bruce won't drop Elmo after his assist and we've seen him crumble in both previous derbies. He's not a big game player that lad i'm afraid.

Make no mistakes Barton will dominate and will be winding Cattermole up something rotten.

We still have a chance to do something about this. Put someone like Gardner into the mix and we suddenly have another twat in the middle with attitude and thats what you need to match Barton and co. Sorry Colback but i'd drop you for Vaughan.........very similar players but i think Vaughan's experience would help us a great deal against them.

I fear the writing was on the wall when Bruce picked his first XI for Liverpool. He doesn't learn and should always have been thinking ahead to the derby instead of firing young lads in there again when he saw how they wilted and hid in the demolition.

Haway Bruce and Quinn you still have a chance to sign a quality left winger and a decent striker. I'm sick of being second best to these twats up the road so do something about it please!

:lol::lol:
 
I posted a thread with my fears before the 5-1 and was lambasted for it. October 31 came around and i was soon proved very right. Please view it below:

http://www.readytogo.net/smb/showthread.php?t=519266&highlight=

"Face it Barton and Nolan are better midfielders than anything we have

Read more: http://www.readytogo.net/smb/showthread.php?t=519266&highlight=#ixzz1VAu3U66X"

Newtonlee2 27th August 2010....................

.....Oh how right i was to be proven. Nolan went on to score 12 goals and Barton was one of the oustanding midfielders of the year. They both dominated us in the derby and it was totally men vs boys.

The saying i 'told you so' doesn't do make up for all the abuse i took and i expect to take the same amount with this thread.

So the question is are we really that much better?

Lets have a look at the likely starting XIs:

Newc Sund
Krul Mignolet Draw

Simpson Bardsley Draw

Collocini Ferdinand Newcastle

Taylor Brown Sunderland

R Taylor Richardson Sunderland

Barton El Mohammady Newcastle

Tiote Cattermole Newcastle

Cabaye Colback Draw (but thats being kind as ligue 1 winning french international against a young lad)

Guiterrez Larsson Draw

Ba Sessegnon (Hard to compare so i won't)

Ameobi Gyan Newcastle win but only against us

So what do we have here? 4 wins to Newcastle, 4 draws and 2 wins to Sunderland. Obviously only my opinion but i'm usually bang on the money.

Another summer and another chance to cement our status as North East top dogs sadly passed us by. I really really hope i'm wrong and we go on to stuff the horrible inbred c unts but again i just can't really see where we edge this???

What really worries is we are going to have a very young midfield against their experienced one YET AGAIN and we all know what happened last time! Bruce won't drop Elmo after his assist and we've seen him crumble in both previous derbies. He's not a big game player that lad i'm afraid.

Make no mistakes Barton will dominate and will be winding Cattermole up something rotten.

We still have a chance to do something about this. Put someone like Gardner into the mix and we suddenly have another twat in the middle with attitude and thats what you need to match Barton and co. Sorry Colback but i'd drop you for Vaughan.........very similar players but i think Vaughan's experience would help us a great deal against them.

I fear the writing was on the wall when Bruce picked his first XI for Liverpool. He doesn't learn and should always have been thinking ahead to the derby instead of firing young lads in there again when he saw how they wilted and hid in the demolition.

Haway Bruce and Quinn you still have a chance to sign a quality left winger and a decent striker. I'm sick of being second best to these twats up the road so do something about it please!

Your synopsis is well flawed ...your also a another deluded Mag
 
compare all you like the fact is we finished higher than them and that is fact not opinion. Thats what you should gauge on. Yes our team has changed and theirs but our team has improved from last season and i think that's a universal opinion. Now if you compare last seasons teams ive no doubt you would have them come out on top yet we finished above them, how come?

I couldn't give a shit about the finish. Top 6/7 and Europe and i'd be happy but not one point above them you stupid twat.

What matters to me is bragging rights for the derby and i'm pointing out my fears again. I want you to rub it in my face if we beat them but all i can see is a draw or a close defeat.
 
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