Sunderland uni tuition fees announced


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There are no upfront fees. They don't have to repay anything until they graduate and start earning more than £21,000 a year - that's £6,000 a year more than your average Wearsider earns.

Sunderland, Durham and the rest of Wearside does not have an average wage 8k lower than Northern Ireland (the lowest average wage in any region of the UK)
 
They are not happy now but why should some graduates pay and not others?....If all graduates were paying rather than just the new ones then everybody would pay a lesser rate rather than humping all the cost onto future generations.

At end of the day I already pay my 9% on my income over £15k so I am looking at it as a point of principle that its not fair on future generations.

Because to be fair you have to have been given a choice. They chose to have a free education, they knew, whatever happened they would never have to pay.

People now, know the score, they can go, and pay some/all of it back over time (as long as they earn enough) - the fees are published - or they can choose not to go.
 
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So what if you want to go part-time whilst working?

Can you get cover for fees for this?

I understand the full time situation, but never thought of the part time situation.
 
So what if you want to go part-time whilst working?

Can you get cover for fees for this?

I understand the full time situation, but never thought of the part time situation.

If you earn less than about 17k per year you can get free education through the open university.
 
Alternative point of view but if they stripped out all of the shite courses that had been invented and reduced them down to courses that were actually of use how of this "funding shortfall" would need to be made up with fees?

There's been this great social engineering exercise to push everyone through universities when they're not suited to everyone. Apprenticeships have fallen on their arses through lack of funding but there's a bunch of people who'd be much better doing something practical whilst working than they would doing something classroom bases.
 
Because to be fair you have to have been given a choice. They chose to have a free education, they knew, whatever happened they would never have to pay.

People now, know the score, they can go, and pay some/all of it back over time (as long as they earn enough) - the fees are published - or they can choose not to go.

I signed upto a profession where I could retire at 60 and I paid a certain amount of my income towards a certain level of pension.

Goal posts are now being shifted. I will have to work till I am 65 (and probs 68 in next few years) and my pension contributions are about to increase by 50% while the amount we recieve will drop by 25%

Government happy to do that as they say it is fair (just 4 years after we agreed and signed upto the last fair system was agreed upon after public enquiry)

Everybody is being asked to take the pain just now so only fair that all graduates pay a lesser figure rather than hammer all new graduates for everything.
 
If I get a degree, big if, I hope I remain the arsehole I am and not a pretentious know it all arsehole like so many seem to become.

The longer you've been a student the more compound your arseholeness has became. It's not just the interest on your loan. You don't need to worry.
 
The longer you've been a student the more compound your arseholeness has became. It's not just the interest on your loan. You don't need to worry.

I am genuinely touched mate
 
If you earn less than about 17k per year you can get free education through the open university.

But what if want to go part time at a local Uni?

Can you get fees support like a full time student?

It's just when I was at Sunderland, about half of my course were part time students. I wonder how such would fair now as I can see these people being put off.
 
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