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should have a SMB party to stand against them
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Excellent post.The problem with Sunderland is the people.
Im dyed in the wool Labour. I believe in the fundamental ideology of Labour. I believe in the welfare state, NHS, fairness for all and dragging people out of poverty. However, although I am a Labour member, I find myself often disappointed with our representatives (particularly on a local level). Far too many councillors are in it for the wrong reasons. They appear to be in it for the razzamataz, ceremony and status rather than putting the city and people first. There is way too much anti Tory/ anti opposition nonsense within the party than goes back decades. This is obviously not unique to Labour as it goes on just as much within the opposition parties.
What is needed is a new influx of members in the political parties. Some new direction, imagination and freshness is desperately needed in our city. Im not talking about knackers like Morrissey and Lee Martin who surf on the waves of Ashcrofts milions Im talking about genuine people who can provide an honest debate without dragging up party political nonsense. Labour has made slight inroads (Bridget Phillipson for example has been an active voice in Parliament for Sunderland South and Houghton) but needs to do way more. It can only do this through an invigorated membership - and to move away from dusty town halls where aged miners still get together to talk about how bad Thatcher was.
This is where the people of Sunderland are to blame. They arent joining political parties and using their voice - either on the blue or red side of politics.
What happened for years with the Vaux site? People sat on their arses complaining about it instead of holding their council accountable and making life difficult for Tesco's. Its easy to sit and point fingers and twist but noone in Sunderland ever does anything to stand up for their city.
Another thing is the short sightedness of the city. There was a strong minority of people who were against an iconic bridge over the Wear. Rather than focus on the millions it could bring in terms of revenue and redevelopment for the area (see the Angel of the North for a similar effect) they asked who would pay for it and that it would cost the council tax payer millions. Then they have the audacity to complain about the state of the city. Its occasionally a no win situation.
So to conclude, whats needed locally is an energised council where Labour and Tories put political ideology aside and pull together to fight for the improvement of the council - and they can all be accountable. The people can also pull their fingers out and occasionally mobilise for the good of their city. Or we can all just be happy with what we have and shut the fuck up about it all.
f***ing hell. This thread's absolutely nuts.
Starts off about a claim that we've lost a 10k 'marathon'. 2nd post states we've still clearly got a 10k run which should be the thread over.
Cue loads of loons claiming Sunderland councillors are working for Tyneside??!! Clearly not true, as is the claim that council candidates are selected by Labour North. Not in my ward they're bloody not and not in any other wards I know of unless there's been some serious misgivings. The only problem there's been recently is a lack of good quality candidates if anything and that's the real problem.
Well if the opinions on this board are anything to go by not only is there a lack of good quality candidates but Labour also seem to be losing their traditional voters. While i admit i know nothing about Sunderland politics i think this pattern is being repeated throughout Durham and nationalistic, right wingers seem to be on the ascendancy.
Opinion polls would suggest that that's utter tripe.
Opinion polls would suggest that that's utter tripe.
Who's really up for a proper protest and not yet another rant on a message board that the councillors piss themselves laughing at then? :roll:
Who's really up for a proper protest and not yet another rant on a message board that the councillors piss themselves laughing at then? :roll:
Excellent post.
Got to be in the top five.post of the year, I'd say.
What the fuck has that got to do with:
Got to be in the top five.
Because they don't give a flying fuck about this city or the people that live in it, you only have to look at the city centre for proof of that, 1 in 5 shops empty, and city centre is getting smaller and smaller, I think there is an ulterior motive somewhere down the line, my opinion is they are getting paid to run this city into the ground so everybody has to go to Tynsnide to do their shopping, it's certainly going that way, the people of Sunderland need to get the red blinkers off, and vote for a party that will do something for the place, the Labour party obviously doesn't, and they've been at the helm for about 50 years, lets have the lib dems in, they've done wonders at Durham and Newcastle, even Seaham harbour is getting more investment than Sunderland FFS.
Youre blind then. Councillors handpicked by tyneside, with geordie roots, funding has been splashed to tyneside for decades and tyne & wear was created for little more than sunderland taxes being spent on tyneside. We got....? Fuck all.
The leader of the Labour Group in Sunderland was elected with 14% of the total votes in his Ward. The opinion polls mean nothing in Local Elections.
Top 3 IMHO.
I blame lazy shopkeepers. If they took a bit more pride in their shops and tidied up a bit it would be a far more pleasant place to shop. We need innovators not backward neandarthals with anger management issues. I wish I could be shit at my job then hide behind the council and wacky conspiracy theories to cover for my inadequacies.
He sure has a beef with them