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Is the correct answer!

Our Labour councillors are selected by Labour North in Gosforth on the basis they have the intelligence and ability of an amoeba. Sunderland City council is ran by a clique of Tynesiders who consider our city to be an irrelevance - but are happy for us to pay their fat salaries.

You may mock but look at the evidence. Even our Deputy Leader of the Council Florance Anderson is a died-in-the-wool Geordie who was recently censored by the Standards Board for writing "F*uck Sunderland on her Facebook account. Then you have the likes of Peter Walls, Newcastle born & bred, who is the man behind Gentoo - an organisation that destroyed large swathes of our council house stock creating a massive housing problem and booting many locals out homes they had spent all their working lives paying for.

Then you have the head of transport - another Geordie who thinks the Monkwearmouth Gyratory and the one way system through the centre of town is wonderful.

Until the people of Sunderland boot out these feckless Labour councillors, many of whom have spent decades on the council and achieved absolutely nothing to show in that time, and replace them with a new generation of councillors committed to Sunderland our city will continue in its downward spiral until there is nothing worth saving and any potential this town has is gone for good.
Would you ascribe the lack of regeneration in Sunderland to:

1) Conspiracy, i.e. a plot to plant Tyneside stooges in Sunderland council over thirty or more years to ensure NewcastleGateshead get whatever money is going

or

2) Cock-up, i.e. general incompetence, complacency, lack of energy and vision of the Labour leadership of Sunderland council, which means Sunderland either fails to make their case striongly when money is handed out, or isn't even at the table ?
 
Would you ascribe the lack of regeneration in Sunderland to:

1) Conspiracy, i.e. a plot to plant Tyneside stooges in Sunderland council over thirty or more years to ensure NewcastleGateshead get whatever money is going

or

2) Cock-up, i.e. general incompetence, complacency, lack of energy and vision of the Labour leadership of Sunderland council, which means Sunderland either fails to make their case striongly when money is handed out, or isn't even at the table ?

I think you've about covered it with both of them ;) now that Gateshead is even looking better than Sunderland, something I never thought would happen but it has, the money spent on the Baltic arts centre the sage, etc, and what have we had ???
 
I think you've about covered it with both of them ;) now that Gateshead is even looking better than Sunderland, something I never thought would happen but it has, the money spent on the Baltic arts centre the sage, etc, and what have we had ???
There is only one answer.

The council needs to be shook out of its complacency. In truth,
Labour in Sunderland doesn't seem to have changed much in decades. It is all very well recalling the injustices of the Thatcher era. Meanwhile, it is clear that the city centre and the local economy is being neglected. It is almost like Sunderland Labour has had post-traumatic stress disorder since the mid 1980s.

The Conservatives aren't the ones to do it. Look at their numbers on the council. Despite the evidence under everyone's noses, no-one is listening to them. Ditto the Lib Dems.

An alternative grouping is needed, outside the mainstream parties, with Sunderland at heart and with some ideas, some energy, and some ambition for the area. It may be a short lived grouping, say five years, long enough to mount a challenge to all of the incumbent councillors, and get them either to buck up their ideas, or retire and move on.
 
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There is only one answer.

The council needs to be shook out of its complacency. In truth,
Labour in Sunderland doesn't seem to have changed much in decades. It is all very well recalling the injustices of the Thatcher era. Meanwhile, it is clear that the city centre and the local economy is being neglected. It is almost like Sunderland Labour has had post-traumatic stress disorder since the mid 1980s.

The Conservatives aren't the ones to do it. Look at their numbers on the council. Despite the evidence under everyone's noses, no-one is listening to them. Ditto the Lib Dems.

An alternative grouping is needed, outside the mainstream parties, with Sunderland at heart and with some ideas, some energy, and some ambition for the area. It may be a short lived grouping, say five years, long enough to mount a challenge to all of the incumbent councillors, and get them either to buck up their ideas, or retire and move on.

Thanks, you've just backed up what I've been saying all along, the Labour council of Sunderland have no ambition or drive, our situation is the same in Coventry, long time Labour council that has only succeeded in running the City into the ground, we need a change, they've had their chance and made a right mess of it, as I've said earlier, I would give the Lib Dems a go, they've done a great job with Durham and Newcastle city centres, and they seem to have the drive to get things done, something we need badly here.
 
Thanks, you've just backed up what I've been saying all along, the Labour council of Sunderland have no ambition or drive, our situation is the same in Coventry, long time Labour council that has only succeeded in running the City into the ground, we need a change, they've had their chance and made a right mess of it, as I've said earlier, I would give the Lib Dems a go, they've done a great job with Durham and Newcastle city centres, and they seem to have the drive to get things done, something we need badly here.
I think that the major political parties are part of
the problem rather than part of the solution.

What we could do with is almost a local Plaid Cymru/SNP type party, focussed entirely on regional issues, almost to a selfish degree, and beholden in no way to the dogma of the Westminister parties.
 
I think that the major political parties are part of
the problem rather than part of the solution.

What we could do with is almost a local Plaid Cymru/SNP type party, focussed entirely on regional issues, almost to a selfish degree, and beholden in no way to the dogma of the Westminister parties.

That may well work, don't know how it can be done though, start with a vote of no confidence in the Labour council AND Tyne and Wear as a county as there is no fair play as far as financial investment goes, it would be fantastic if we could find the right personnel to take it on.
 
There's a photo of one of their scrutiny committee metings in there. There must be twenty-odd sat round that table !

it will be a bloody expensive meeting that gets nothing done.
If I'd been able to [damn you adobe] I'd have posted that photo on here, along with the remark that it was too big to be effective.
 
Haven't had time to read this but it may be interesting to some.

http://www.sunderland.gov.uk/CHttpHandler.ashx?id=9086&p=0

A quick view of that seems to be more money wasted on jobs for the boys, when everyone with any sense can see what's happening without the need for spending money on a scrutiny team, it seems they are pulling the wool over our eyes yet again, trying to make us think they are concerned and doing something when they're not.
 
A study was commissioned in 2007 which showed that of the £1.6 Billion in disposable income the people of Sunderland generate every year, £1.3 Billion is spent in Newcastle and The Metrocentre while only £300 million is spent in our own shops. So Sunderland City Centre is currently operating at around one fifth of its true potential - while the City of Newcastle is doing very, very well out of Sunderland.

I have to say that I don't believe those figures for one second - honestly do you think that people in Sunderland only spend their money in Sunderland, Newcastle and the Metrocentre, nowhere else either in the country or abroad :lol:
 
I have to say that I don't believe those figures for one second - honestly do you think that people in Sunderland only spend their money in Sunderland, Newcastle and the Metrocentre, nowhere else either in the country or abroad :lol:
Are you going to bother to read the intervening over hundred odd posts?
 
I said ages ago that we should form a new party dedicated to the prosperity of the Sunderland Brorough and it residents. Call it the SMB Party.. (Original I know)

Focussed 100% improving Sunderland, instead of back hand dealings and lining ones own pockets......
 
Sunderland Council supplied the figures not me - ask them for a copy of the report as i suggested.


I have to say that I don't believe those figures for one second - honestly do you think that people in Sunderland only spend their money in Sunderland, Newcastle and the Metrocentre, nowhere else either in the country or abroad :lol:
 
Sunderland Council supplied the figures not me - ask them for a copy of the report as i suggested.

TBF, the figures you quoted were disproved by yourself in a later post. Think you got muddled on how much disposable income people had, inflated the figures slightly and were also a few years out with the date of the report but the basics of what you were saying were similar to the report, sort of.
 
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