Sunderland Council

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If you are referring to the surrounding pit villages that may be true, but we are a city of quite some size and population, and why should the people of this city have to travel to Durham or Newcastle to do their shopping ? Extra expense straight away for the travel, this city has all the qualities to thrive except one, a council that give s fuck.

I'm not sure that people do on a regular basis. People may work in Newcastle and shop there out of convenience but I doubt many do it out of choice.
What particular shops would they be looking to shop in? The major ones I can think of that Sunderland doesn't have are Fenwicks and John Lewis but I would imagine a relatively small amount of Sunderland's disposable income is spent there.
 
I'm not sure that people do on a regular basis. People may work in Newcastle and shop there out of convenience but I doubt many do it out of choice.
What particular shops would they be looking to shop in? The major ones I can think of that Sunderland doesn't have are Fenwicks and John Lewis but I would imagine a relatively small amount of Sunderland's disposable income is spent there.

Eldon Square, the indoor markets,Eldon Market, the independant clothes shops, the craft bakeries. the cafe's and coffee shops, the independent record shops etc.
There's quite a list if you think about it, all paying lower rates than their equivilants in Sunderland with much better services provided by their council.
 
Well you can understand their bitterness but after all it was nearly 30 years ago - time to move on. The simple fact is that around 7,000 jobs were lost in the shipbuilding industry and about 12,000 created by Nissan and it's supply industries. The jobs lost in the mining industry on Wearside are dwarfed by the expansion of the University of Sunderland. Then you have the likes of Doxford International, Sunderland Enterprise Park etc.

This makes the current state of Sunderland as a commercial centre even more annoying.

You are forgetting that the working population (or not as the case maybe) has grown significantly.
The job losses in shipbuilding, mining and their related industries was far greater than those you quote above. You also miss out the populations affected from the surrounding area of County Durham who did use Sunderland.
I´m afraid 12,000 Nissan jobs does not go anywhere near offsetting the numbers of jobs lost even when combined with the other so called Enterprise parks. And if you add onto that the increase in the number of people of working age you get a huge deficit.
 
You are forgetting that the working population (or not as the case maybe) has grown significantly.
The job losses in shipbuilding, mining and their related industries was far greater than those you quote above. You also miss out the populations affected from the surrounding area of County Durham who did use Sunderland.
I´m afraid 12,000 Nissan jobs does not go anywhere near offsetting the numbers of jobs lost even when combined with the other so called Enterprise parks. And if you add onto that the increase in the number of people of working age you get a huge deficit.

Why do you put shipbuilding and the pits together?
Labour closed more mines before Thatcher and Labour nationalised the yards in 1976.
 
Eldon Square, the indoor markets,Eldon Market, the independant clothes shops, the craft bakeries. the cafe's and coffee shops, the independent record shops etc.
There's quite a list if you think about it, all paying lower rates than their equivilants in Sunderland with much better services provided by their council.

Eldon Square has some of the highest business rates in the north east, and Eldon Market was demolished four years ago. There are only two independent record shops in Newcastle - RPM and Reflex - both of which are tiny and do the vast majority of their business online these day.

Apart from that, great post.
 
Why do you put shipbuilding and the pits together?
Labour closed more mines before Thatcher and Labour nationalised the yards in 1976.

They along with Steel were the industries of the north east therefore the main employers.
As said earlier ...when Labour closed mines people were given alternative work in other pits if they chose to.
I believe the ship yards were nationalised to stop them closing in much the same way as Northern Rock has been recently. failed private enterprise being bailed out again !
 
Eldon Square has some of the highest business rates in the north east, and Eldon Market was demolished four years ago. There are only two independent record shops in Newcastle - RPM and Reflex - both of which are tiny and do the vast majority of their business online these day.

Apart from that, great post.

I take it i only can see the market stalls outside Eldon Square on a weekend then, and nobody can cross over the road to the indoor market.
And there's only me that knows you've missed 2 of the most popular independant record shops in the North East off your list.
Fuck off with your pettiness and take it elsewhere you dull ****.
Grown ups are talking, not giving tossers excuses to leave Sunderland the way it is.
 
Eldon Square has some of the highest business rates in the north east, and Eldon Market was demolished four years ago. There are only two independent record shops in Newcastle - RPM and Reflex - both of which are tiny and do the vast majority of their business online these day.

Apart from that, great post.

And beatdown records.
 
Eldon Square, the indoor markets,Eldon Market, the independant clothes shops, the craft bakeries. the cafe's and coffee shops, the independent record shops etc.
There's quite a list if you think about it, all paying lower rates than their equivilants in Sunderland with much better services provided by their council.

I reckon Sunderland has some pretty decent independent clothes shops and also has plenty of cafe's and coffee shops. No idea about independent record shops but there's probably not much you can get in the indoor markets you can't get in Sunderland. I don't think they are massively apart in what you can get.
 
Utter tosh! There are plenty of jobs to be had, the last government had to allow over 3 million migrants into the country to fill vacant posts - it's a matter of being unwilling to travel or not wanting to work.

Closing colleries and giving people alternative employment is a lot different to closing colleries and putting whole communities on the social scrap heap !
 
I take it i only can see the market stalls outside Eldon Square on a weekend then, and nobody can cross over the road to the indoor market.
And there's only me that knows you've missed 2 of the most popular independant record shops in the North East off your list.
Fuck off with your pettiness and take it elsewhere you dull ****.
Grown ups are talking, not giving tossers excuses to leave Sunderland the way it is.

Not sure which ones you mean. They occasionally have a farmers market, once a month maybe.
They have a Xmas Market in December but Sunderland does as well.
 
I take it i only can see the market stalls outside Eldon Square on a weekend then, and nobody can cross over the road to the indoor market.
And there's only me that knows you've missed 2 of the most popular independant record shops in the North East off your list.
Fuck off with your pettiness and take it elsewhere you dull ****.
Grown ups are talking, not giving tossers excuses to leave Sunderland the way it is.

The market stalls you claim to see outside Eldon Square on a weekend are there for two weeks before Christmas, and there are Farmer's Markets there six times a year. The indoor market you refer to was demolished four years ago. I think the market you're now referring to is the Grainger Market, although that's not what you said originally. I've no idea which record shops you're referring to.

If you want to be treated like a grown-up, try and get some facts right.
 
They along with Steel were the industries of the north east therefore the main employers.
As said earlier ...when Labour closed mines people were given alternative work in other pits if they chose to.
I believe the ship yards were nationalised to stop them closing in much the same way as Northern Rock has been recently. failed private enterprise being bailed out again !
Whilst I think the yards, likewise the steel industry, were only nationalised so that the orders could be directed to more important [politically] parts of the UK.
 

Anar :lol: I got a bit carried away with mesel.

Just when someone has post after post criticising the current council but then states he would be happy to see a party like the BNP take control you just wonder why you bothered wasting your finger energy typing.
 
Utter tosh! There are plenty of jobs to be had, the last government had to allow over 3 million migrants into the country to fill vacant posts - it's a matter of being unwilling to travel or not wanting to work.

And you say i am talking "utter tosh" !!
I would like for you to show me where these jobs are you are talking about. I will then point the decent, willing, poor people i know in the right direction.
Are you seriously saying that there is plenty of work in the UK but the British are lazy bastards who are not willing to work !! :eek: Try telling the 2.53 Million who are unemployed or the 1 in 5 youth who are without work and not much of a future.
As far as i could see when i was last looking for work the vast majority of the few jobs available were part time, poorly paid, temporary or agency jobs. Go into a job centre and look.
 
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