Sunderland AFC 'Pride'


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I don't care either way, most people are annoying wankers whatever their beliefs, who are also intolerant asshats.

However, being a straight heterosexual who society has always been on "your side" and pretending to emphasise with a gay man or woman because of social pressure is a joke, do you realise they grew up in constant fear of ridicule and rejection from society and loved ones because they were told it wasn't right to feel they way they did or do?

"Ramming it down our throats"? It's a celebration of acceptance, but it's not unconditionally, it's from behind gritted teeth with some, it's because of these people being gay is a crime or a fault or "unnatural"

Let people live they way they want, if it doesn't fit your norms so fuck, keep out of other people's lives.
Nail. Head.
 
I don't care either way, most people are annoying wankers whatever their beliefs, who are also intolerant asshats.

However, being a straight heterosexual who society has always been on "your side" and pretending to emphasise with a gay man or woman because of social pressure is a joke, do you realise they grew up in constant fear of ridicule and rejection from society and loved ones because they were told it wasn't right to feel they way they did or do?

"Ramming it down our throats"? It's a celebration of acceptance, but it's not unconditionally, it's from behind gritted teeth with some, it's because of these people being gay is a crime or a fault or "unnatural"

Let people live they way they want, if it doesn't fit your norms so fuck, keep out of other people's lives.

I totally agree, but in this instance it's being brought into people's lives who otherwise couldn't give a fuck. What's wrong with just treating everyone the same?
 
I totally agree, but in this instance it's being brought into people's lives who otherwise couldn't give a fuck. What's wrong with just treating everyone the same?
Everyone has to give a fuck. It’s in everyone’s lives, why pretend it isn’t?
 
You have to mate, you really have to. What if you have a child and that child turns out to be gay?

Then I'll have a child, what do I care whether he's gay? We live in England 2019, not Qatar. I mean the club has kits made by Adidas, how are they treating workers/suppliers? And has been sponsored by multiple bookies, who are exploiting vulnerable people.

Then they want to tell me (and everyone else) to make sure we treat this group well. Which of course we should, but it's so particular that I find it cynical.
 
Then I'll have a child, what do I care whether he's gay? We live in England 2019, not Qatar. I mean the club has kits made by Adidas, how are they treating workers/suppliers? And has been sponsored by multiple bookies, who are exploiting vulnerable people.

Then they want to tell me (and everyone else) to make sure we treat this group well. Which of course we should, but it's so particular that I find it cynical.
I think you must have something against this particular group. You need to get over it and fast. Perhaps you should meet some individuals in the transgender community.
 
I think you must have something against this particular group. You need to get over it and fast. Perhaps you should meet some individuals in the transgender community.

I don't find this type of relentless instruction to people of what they are doing wrong is particularly helpful, and comes across very condescending, whether it is deliberate or not.

I don't think the fella said anything wrong, and is perfectly entitled to his opinion.
 
I don't find this type of relentless instruction to people of what they are doing wrong is particularly helpful, and comes across very condescending, whether it is deliberate or not.

I don't think the fella said anything wrong, and is perfectly entitled to his opinion.
You’re another one that needs educating about people’s rights to express themselves
 
You’re another one that needs educating about people’s rights to express themselves

You never stop learning, and part of that process is understanding not everyone agrees with you. Here is a newsflash for you - you are not correct about every topic (nobody is), and going off on one at someone who disagrees with you on a point is not an attractive personality trait. A reasoned debate is the way forward, not telling someone they are wrong and what to do to correct themselves! Can you not see that?
 
eh why ? just cos im sick of LGBT,Q why cant they just get on with life ?

I think that is a bit daft mate, my daughter has had dogs abuse off f***ing pricks on numerous occasions for dating a girl. She wants to "just get on with life", but preferably without that shite.

Its highlighting an issue to try and stop things like that being common, which is fair enough in my book.
 
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