Stone Roses or Oasis?


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Noels interview i have from 1995.

Interviewer spots beatles badge on his coat

"whats with the badge?"

"best band ever"

"who the second?"

"oasis"

Standard Gallagher bragging.

Why not google the quotes about how The Stone Roses inspired Noel to join a group or the quote about how Oasis would be nothing without The Stone Roses.
 
They wouldn't have made it onto a Stone Roses album

:eek:

if ya put best 20 from oasis against best 20 from the roses i think the 90s lot would win without doubt.

Standard Gallagher bragging.

Why not google the quotes about how The Stone Roses inspired Noel to join a group or the quote about how Oasis would be nothing without The Stone Roses.

and?

i even know Liam said it was watching Brown on stage that made him stand up to a mic.

there is a difference between being inspired and being better.

the beatles will have been influenced/inspired by someone but there is no one better than them ever.
 
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maybe, but if you just do a couple of records and then duff it you cant be classed as a top band. That is why the Beatles are above and beyond the rest, consistentl;y brilliant, even when mucking about. The Roses barely existed by comparison.

And to me, Oasis put out one and a half great albums (together with a very good set of B-sides) then duffed it. TBH, given the length (in album terms) of both bands careers and a much more valid question would be "The Stone Roses" or "Definitely Maybe"?
 
Roses and Oasis both absolutely epic in there own special ways for me.

I think the Roses picked up the baton for UK Indie music and Oasis ran with it.
 
Well Liam Gallagher based his entire persona on Ian Brown. I'm sure even he would agree that the Roses are the better band.

Oasis were a good band in the 90s but outstayed their welcome by never re-inventing themselves and continuously releasing albums of the same formula for another decade. They kind of became a parody of themselves by the end (which could be argued was a parody in the first instance). They should have split up after Be Here Now.

What the fuck is this obsession nowadays with bands supposedly needing to reinvent themselves for fear of becoming 'a pardody of themselves'??

What were they suppose to do, release a reggae album?

Nee wonder you get all these fannies jumping on the bandwagon of every single latest fresh new "amazing 'cos Zane Lowe told me so" band that comes along. :roll:

Roses and Oasis both absolutely epic in there own special ways for me.

I think the Roses picked up the baton for UK Indie music and Oasis ran with it.

Fuck me, you should write for the NME with gold like that. :eek:

Nee offence marra, I like both too.
 
And to me, Oasis put out one and a half great albums (together with a very good set of B-sides) then duffed it. TBH, given the length (in album terms) of both bands careers and a much more valid question would be "The Stone Roses" or "Definitely Maybe"?

No it wouldnt.

Morning Glory is a quality album, with many songs being better than Roses stuff. (in my opinion).

Masterplan (Oasis album of b-sides) is also brilliant.

Face it, the Roses benefitted from not being able to do it for long. They did one really good album and thats their whack. They couldnt even do that album justice on a stage. (Brown being the main reason of course).
 
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if ya put best 20 from oasis against best 20 from the roses i think the 90s lot would win without doubt.



and?

i even know Liam said it was watching Brown on stage that made him stand up to a mic.

there is a difference between being inspired and being better.

the beatles will have been influenced/inspired by someone but there is no one better than them ever.

Of course there are better bands than the Beatles. Perhaps not bigger though.

Oasis are undeniably, though probably unwarrantedly huge. Just because they have a bigger back catalogue doesn't make them better either.
 
wrong, he plays lead, wrote four or five songs on the album, two of which were 'singles'. (including the latest one, millionaire).



you aware of the song falling down on oasis last album? its different to their usual sound and stands up against their best work from the 90s imo. to say all their songs sound the same is as lazy as the 'everything sounds like the beatles' patter. they were far from being one of the best ever, but nowhere near as bad as some like to say (although it is fashionable to dig at them without thought).

edit: Gallagher might have based his look on Brown. so what? he is a better front man than Brown and his voice (from the 90s) simply blows Brown (and most others of that genre) away!

I'm aware of that song and its hardly a change in direction. They released a few decent songs later on but the general direction was exactly the same. At the end of the day they were content with releasing a sub-standard album every couple of years knowing it would sell, then doing a sell out stadium tour to make a few million each (fair play to them, plenty of mugs bought into it for nostalgia reasons). It was clear they were going through the motions (summed up by the hostility on stage), and its where i lost a lot of respect for them.
 
What the fuck is this obsession nowadays with bands supposedly needing to reinvent themselves for fear of becoming 'a pardody of themselves'??

What were they suppose to do, release a reggae album?

Nee wonder you get all these fannies jumping on the bandwagon of every single latest fresh new "amazing 'cos Zane Lowe told me so" band that comes along. :roll:

It's not necessarily about re-inventing themselves but there should be and with most of the best bands there is a progression with successive albums where they stretch themselves and try different things. Oasis simply didn't do this and by the fourth album it just got very tired.

Don't get me wrong I don't hate Oasis they have some good songs but all this generation inspiring best band of the 90's bollox that people come out with just isn't true and I was 15 or so when supersonic came out so if they were to be a band of a generation then it would've been mine.
 
Of course there are better bands than the Beatles. Perhaps not bigger though.

Oasis are undeniably, though probably unwarrantedly huge. Just because they have a bigger back catalogue doesn't make them better either.

no one better than the Beatles for me.
three of the best song writers in one group.

Tomorrow Never Knows is pure genius, totally different and well ahead of its time. In fact, the likes of the Chemical brothers have been trying to out do it since.
 
no one better than the Beatles for me.
three of the best song writers in one group.

Great band but there are bands that were more creative, just less mainstream. In terms of pop, they are probably as good as gets. Prefer the Rolling Stones meself though :)
 
Oasis greatest hits:

Disc one"Rock 'n' Roll Star" (from Definitely Maybe) – 5:20
"Some Might Say" (from (What's the Story) Morning Glory?) – 5:10
"Talk Tonight" (from The Masterplan) – 4:19
"Lyla" (from Don't Believe the Truth) – 5:10
"The Importance of Being Idle" (from Don't Believe the Truth) – 3:41
"Wonderwall" (from (What's the Story) Morning Glory?) – 4:18
"Slide Away" (from Definitely Maybe) – 6:14
"Cigarettes & Alcohol" (from Definitely Maybe) – 4:48
"The Masterplan" (from The Masterplan) – 5:20
Disc two"Live Forever" (from Definitely Maybe) – 4:35
"Acquiesce" (from The Masterplan) – 4:23
"Supersonic" (from Definitely Maybe) – 4:35
"Half the World Away" (from The Masterplan) – 4:14
"Go Let It Out" (from Standing on the Shoulder of Giants) – 4:41
"Songbird" (from Heathen Chemistry) – 2:05
"Morning Glory" (from (What's the Story) Morning Glory?) – 5:01
"Champagne Supernova" (from (What's the Story) Morning Glory?) – 7:29
"Don't Look Back in Anger" (from (What's the Story) Morning Glory?) – 4:52



The Stone Roses greatest hits:

"So Young" – 3:30
"Tell Me" – 3:50
"Sally Cinnamon" (7" remix version) – 2:50
"Here It Comes" – 2:40
"All Across the Sands" – 2:40
"Elephant Stone" (7" version) – 3:00
"Full Fathom Five" – 3:18
"The Hardest Thing in the World" – 2:39
"Made of Stone" – 4:11
"Going Down" – 2:46
"She Bangs the Drums" (7" edit version) – 3:42
"Mersey Paradise" – 2:44
"Standing Here" – 5:05
"I Wanna Be Adored" (7" edit version) – 3:28
"Waterfall" (7" remix version) – 3:36
"I Am the Resurrection" (7" remix version) – 3:41
"Where Angels Play" – 4:15
"Fools Gold" (7" version) – 4:15
"What The World Is Waiting For" – 3:55
"Something Burning" (7" version) – 3:37
"One Love" (7" version) – 3:40



For me that shows the strength and depth of The Stone Roses........as for Oasis - Half The World Away :lol: FFS
 
No it wouldnt.

Morning Glory is a quality album, with many songs being better than Roses stuff. (in my opinion).

Masterplan (Oasis album of b-sides) is also brilliant.

Face it, the Roses benefitted from not being able to do it for long. They did one really good album and thats their whack. They couldnt even do that album justice on a stage. (Brown being the main reason of course).

Which is why I said a very good set of B-sides. Music's not about longevity, it's about knowing when to get out.

Agreed about them live though, from my memory of seeing both live.

The Roses split (as with the Oasis split) was personality based anyway - they might well have gone on to do great things later if it hadn't been for John Squire.
 
I'm aware of that song and its hardly a change in direction. They released a few decent songs later on but the general direction was exactly the same. At the end of the day they were content with releasing a sub-standard album every couple of years knowing it would sell, then doing a sell out stadium tour to make a few million each (fair play to them, plenty of mugs bought into it for nostalgia reasons). It was clear they were going through the motions (summed up by the hostility on stage), and its where i lost a lot of respect for them.

Id argue Oasis suffered because their first two records were so good. everything they did after was compared to those two when it should have been compared to everyone elses stuff.
 
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