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Hark at Mother Theresa here.Semantics though really, in his position he shouldn't have even been having that conversation with a bunch of strangers over a pint of wine.
The thing for me is that he shouldn't have put himself in that position.
I and many other people would have been in bother if we'd been caught telling people how to break our employers laws or even suggested it was possible. If he'd not been where he was he wouldn't have been caught.
It's just my opinion but he was a sitting duck waiting to be shot and his arrogance and greed allowed the bullets to be fired. And while saying he regrets it he's still trying to deflect responsibility for his actions on to others.
Hark at Mother Theresa here.
Who are you exactly to be sitting in judgement about what someone should and shouldn't do?
He's said some ill advised things which he has apologised for and paid a heavy price by losing his job.
Boils my piss people on here coming over superior and falling over themselves to sick the boot in without being in full possession of facts/context.
People have got short memories.
Got a few skeletons in your closet by any chance?Hark at Mother Theresa here.
Who are you exactly to be sitting in judgement about what someone should and shouldn't do?
He's said some ill advised things which he has apologised for and paid a heavy price by losing his job.
Boils my piss people on here coming over superior and falling over themselves to sick the boot in without being in full possession of facts/context.
People have got short memories.
What a silly thing to say it's my opinion no more and no lessHark at Mother Theresa here.
Who are you exactly to be sitting in judgement about what someone should and shouldn't do?
He's said some ill advised things which he has apologised for and paid a heavy price by losing his job.
Boils my piss people on here coming over superior and falling over themselves to sick the boot in without being in full possession of facts/context.
People have got short memories.
Hark at Mother Theresa here.
Who are you exactly to be sitting in judgement about what someone should and shouldn't do?
He's said some ill advised things which he has apologised for and paid a heavy price by losing his job.
Boils my piss people on here coming over superior and falling over themselves to sick the boot in without being in full possession of facts/context.
People have got short memories.
Exactly if he'd not met with them he couldn't have been trapped.
And in saying he was helping a friend he's still deflecting some of the responsibility. If he'd just said yes, I was stupid I apologise then I'd have had far more respect for him.
I don't think I ever said I was over the moon, but like the majority when Sam went I was more than happy with him. Things aren't great but I'm not ready to throw him to the dogs yet
Does that not work both ways though? I've seen folk defend him who don't know all of the "facts". There certainly suggestions today that there is more to this.Hark at Mother Theresa here.
Who are you exactly to be sitting in judgement about what someone should and shouldn't do?
He's said some ill advised things which he has apologised for and paid a heavy price by losing his job.
Boils my piss people on here coming over superior and falling over themselves to sick the boot in without being in full possession of facts/context.
People have got short memories.
Problem with this is that's all about an agenda with some and they aren't even very subtle in trying to disguise it. Sam left us for England and that's left a few people very bitter so something like this is manner from heaven for them.I doubt you've read any of it to be fair
He hasn't done anything remotely or even slightly illegal or corrupt
Modern day mob mentality always love to judge though
He really didn't like
Read the transcript
He said people do get around it
They either haven't read it or dont understand
I'd defend this if it was Alan shearer, I don't like this acceptance that he's done things he hasn't
Fuck all happened at that meeting
He slagged off the stadium and called Roy, woy
Regardless of who this is/was I'm very uncomfortable with it. People spend hard earned money following their team, why should we accept people who are trying to find methods to get even richer from the game.Problem with this is that's all about an agenda with some and they aren't even very subtle in trying to disguise it. Sam left us for England and that's left a few people very bitter so something like this is manner from heaven for them.
We've had a few threads now which apparently are 'just to start a discussion' yet by the end of the OP it's crystal clear what it's all about.
The dogs would throw him back![]()
It's got nothing to do with him leaving I was one of the main ones saying it was his dream job and I had no problem with it.Problem with this is that's all about an agenda with some and they aren't even very subtle in trying to disguise it. Sam left us for England and that's left a few people very bitter so something like this is manner from heaven for them.
We've had a few threads now which apparently are 'just to start a discussion' yet by the end of the OP it's crystal clear what it's all about.
Would this have impacted on his ability to do his job? I wouldn't have thought so. Big Sam likes the coin there's no getting away from it, read his book and he left us as a player in top flight to go to milwall in 3rd tier for more cash so he's probably always been like that but for me I just don't see what he's done that's so bad (from what's been reported thus far anyway).Regardless of who this is/was I'm very uncomfortable with it. People spend hard earned money following their team, why should we accept people who are trying to find methods to get even richer from the game.
It probably wouldn't and I have no dispute that Allardyce is a good manager. The problem is the message it sends out. You have to bare in mind the shit that FIFA have gone/going through, you have to bare in mind the message it puts out if he was allowed to continue. I said yesterday the bottom line is as England manager you can't put yourself in that position. I think it's strange how an England manager needs an agent. It's a position where you should have PR and administration staff organising things for you. All your duties should be dedicated to the role, there should be no conflicting interests what so ever.Would this have impacted on his ability to do his job? I wouldn't have thought so. Big Sam likes the coin there's no getting away from it, read his book and he left us as a player in top flight to go to milwall in 3rd tier for more cash so he's probably always been like that but for me I just don't see what he's done that's so bad (from what's been reported thus far anyway).
The FA will no doubt pick some goon in the mould of Woy now who is absolutely useless but will mind his Ps and Qs!
It's a real shame as Sam is an excellent manager and I think he'd have done a good job.
To me Sam has been guilty of being a bit naive and also greedy. In my opinion a strong statement from FA and an apology from Sam should've sufficed but when it's England the press want blood.It probably wouldn't and I have no dispute that Allardyce is a good manager. The problem is the message it sends out. You have to bare in mind the shit that FIFA have gone/going through, you have to bare in mind the message it puts out if he was allowed to continue. I said yesterday the bottom line is as England manager you can't put yourself in that position. I think it's strange how an England manager needs an agent. It's a position where you should have PR and administration staff organising things for you. All your duties should be dedicated to the role, there should be no conflicting interests what so ever.
CorrectPure and simple arrogance and greed. Thought he was billy big bollox and could conduct his England tenure in exactly the same way as his league management career and was too fuckin ignorant to realise this wasn't the case. Only himself to blame and couldn't give a shiney shite about what his future holds. Fuck all now to do with SAFC. I only hope his dodgy dealings don't have an effect on us, he's already fucked us over once !!!
To me Sam has been guilty of being a bit naive and also greedy. In my opinion a strong statement from FA and an apology from Sam should've sufficed but when it's England the press want blood.
I see no reason why this should affect him getting another job in football and the way some people have reacted to it is way OTT.
Says who? / source? - isn't it more a case that they have no cast-iron irrefutable proof (as yet)!in order to name and shame?Apparently there have been a fair number of injunctions obtained by individuals who were going to be named, which restricts what the Telegraph can actually print atm.
Fuck off daft mag you are in the championshipSam was sacked from us for being shite
Sacked from west ham for being shite
Sacked from England for bringing the FA into disrepute
Walked away from Sunderland the only plce he has done any good in the last 15 years...
To me it just shows how much of a daft cock he is.
The man was the mouthpiece of the FA - he was their highest in office yet discusses ways to manipulate the rules in which he should be ardently defending as outlined by the governing body that employed him.
Sure he should be able to manage again, but would anyone want somebody that is clearly that thick?
I would have thought so. It seems it's agents that they have on camera naming manager's. Unless it comes out of the mouths of those managers then it's just accusations. Allardyce was arrogant enoough to think he could pull something off, so ended up in front of the camera.Says who? / source? - isn't it more a case that they have no cast-iron irrefutable proof (as yet)!in order to name and shame?