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My be I am reading too much in his body language and the general way he which he looks,but have never took to Sam.

First of all he has always come across as someone who thinks he actually better than he his, the way he was talking on the tape,he just come across as someone thinking he is billy big bollocks,his comments about Roy and Neville I find cringeworthy and tbh childish.

For all his years in the game he has not achieved that much and IMO was only considered for the job,because the better managers in the game do not consider the England job a top job no more.

He had the job he had always wanted,yet still could not keep his nose clean, I for one could not see the England team going forward under him and am glad he is no longer there.

The FA had no choice,they can't preach the right and wrongs of the game in this country yet have someone as shady as Sam as a figure head.
Couldn't agree more, if he was chocolate he'd eat himself.
 
Totally agree.

I don't get this problem of people leaving us for better jobs, if we had more players and more managers getting offers, it would mean we were doing better.



I 100% wouldn't.

This has fuck all to do with Sam, I would defend if it was Shearer

Just don't like peopel sayign he is corrupt etc, he might well be, but not based on that sting operation, said fuck all.



Complete nonsense. Again another poster who seemingly hasn't read the transcript.

Several of the top sports writers have summed it up better than we have, but you probably made your mind up after reading a headline.



No I wouldn't

You haven't even read the story, clearly. He did fuck all corrupt

I'd say that if was the exile

stop putting words in my mouth love.
Is it true that dodgy salesmen are queuing up at your front door every day?
 
of course gross misconduct is a sackable offence, but I still cannot see any gross misconduct in what has been reported. Obviously he had a contract and we don't know the small print in it, but howay man he was sat in a bar having a few bevies and what he thought was a private conversation. No money changed hands, there was no talk of underhand payments.

If gross misconduct has occurred I would expect an organisation such as the FA who are massively in debt, and posted q £16 million loss last year to sack him. Surely by this mutual consent, mega bucks payoff and confidentiality clause, the FA themselves are playing fast and loose with football supporters money and are therefore no better than the man they have rid themselves of.
Again, why even put yourself in this situation man? Even his dodgy as fuck agent allegedly advised against the meeting ffs!
 
He'd off sued them, & probably won.

He wouldn't have dared open that can of worms.

His whole managerial career would be microscopically examined by lawyers and their investigators to highlight his "character".

of course gross misconduct is a sackable offence, but I still cannot see any gross misconduct in what has been reported. Obviously he had a contract and we don't know the small print in it, but howay man he was sat in a bar having a few bevies and what he thought was a private conversation. No money changed hands, there was no talk of underhand payments.

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Because it was exposed before that temptation could be placed on the table perhaps at a later date.
Well done the Telegraph
 
He wouldn't have dared open that can of worms.

His whole managerial career would be microscopically examined by lawyers and their investigators to highlight his "character".



Because it was exposed before that temptation could be placed on the table perhaps at a later date.
Well done the Telegraph
Supposition !!!! , and here rests the case for the defence.
 
He wouldn't have dared open that can of worms.

His whole managerial career would be microscopically examined by lawyers and their investigators to highlight his "character".



Because it was exposed before that temptation could be placed on the table perhaps at a later date.
Well done the Telegraph
All the footage that the Telegaraph have in no way implicated Allardyce doing anything illegal, they don't even make that claim, so the FA wouldn't want to go down that route either.
 
I shudder to think what he got up to regarding our comings and goings but, as they say, that horse has already bolted.

Given
(a) he flat out knocked back any suggestion of a bung ('that doesn't happen any more'), and
(b) he easily had the best transfer window of any of our managers that I can remember

I see no reason at all to suspect anything at all was wrong with his transfers for us, never mind giving me shudders...are you sure you're just not cold and it's time to turn the central heating on, marra?
 
The Allardyce sympathisers are starting to remind me of the people who were adamant Lance Armstrong was clean.
Personally, I'm not sympathising with anyone. I'm simply rationally analysing things that are in the public domain and pointing out assumptions, conflations and misconstructions made on here by others.
 
The Allardyce sympathisers are starting to remind me of the people who were adamant Lance Armstrong was clean.
They're the same as the ones who are dancing on his grave not because he was caught out by his own greed, because he left the club.

This thread was started to have a dig at Allardyce. Some of us are a little grown up and respect him for what he did last season and the position he left us in.
 
They're the same as the ones who are dancing on his grave not because he was caught out by his own greed, because he left the club.

This thread was started to have a dig at Allardyce. Some of us are a little grown up and respect him for what he did last season and the position he left us in.


Bollocks.

I suspect I'm not alone in accepting that he's an excellent and much under-appreciated manager at our level and did a very, very good job for us.

By the same token the majority on here were disappointed that he took the England job but accepted that it was his dream gig.

But that doesn't mean that we should stick our fingers in our ears and ignore the less savoury aspects of Sam's character.

The Telegraph sting was very revealing and apart from the fact that he came across as egotistical, cocky and boorish it also confirmed what a lot of fans had always suspected - that he's a greedy chancer.
 
Bollocks.

I suspect I'm not alone in accepting that he's an excellent and much under-appreciated manager at our level and did a very, very good job for us.

By the same token the majority on here were disappointed that he took the England job but accepted that it was his dream gig.

But that doesn't mean that we should stick our fingers in our ears and ignore the less savoury aspects of Sam's character.

The Telegraph sting was very revealing and apart from the fact that he came across as egotistical, cocky and boorish it also confirmed what a lot of fans had always suspected - that he's a greedy chancer.
I agree with you and I feel the same. I've no sympathy for Allardyce. He had to go. But the OP was more in line of taking a dig at Allardyce because he left not for what he did. Some posters on here take objection to anyone who moves on.
 
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