Star Wars : Episode 9



Nowhere near as bad as I was expecting. Comfortably the best of the trilogy (not saying much that mind - the other two are awful). Probably the 6th best film after the originals, Rogue One and Revenge of the Sith.
 
always been a star wars fan and went to see this New Years day......I left with this face... :neutral: I honestly thought it was a bit shit and left me underwhelmed....it's been shite since Return of the Jedi, in the 'story'.....Rogue one was the bollocks....Solo was a decent effort....but on the whole, they've been a bit wank.
 
always been a star wars fan and went to see this New Years day......I left with this face... :neutral: I honestly thought it was a bit shit and left me underwhelmed....it's been shite since Return of the Jedi, in the 'story'.....Rogue one was the bollocks....Solo was a decent effort....but on the whole, they've been a bit wank.
So what you're saying is you've thought 6 out of the 8 star wars films made in the last 37 years have been a bit wank but you're still a fan. :p
 
So what you're saying is you've thought 6 out of the 8 star wars films made in the last 37 years have been a bit wank but you're still a fan. :p

was a bit vague.....New hope, Empire, Jedi.....great....phantom, the next one, wank....one after that was ok.....the next three weren't great....I just didn't connect...rogue one was amazing....Solo was decent.... :D

I'm guessing my 'fan' part was based more on my childhood in reality....
 
Just seen a rumour that Disney could be releasing a JJ Abrams cut of the film at the pictures in the next couple of months.

Will have a run time of 190 minutes
 
after TLJ it was always going to struggle. Saying that expectation was so low that it should have been better than it was.

that’s what happens when you don’t build a trilogy with a plan.
The mandalorian and Rogue 1 prove that Disney could produce better however this trilogy has been awful.

badly produced, Micro managed but still lacking in control when it comes to writing. Also there seem to be more and more plot black holes appearing when people re-watch it.
When they have to publish books to explain the plots of the films, you know there’s a problem.
 
It was an enjoyable nostalgic romp of a couple of hours. But it was also very weak story wise like much of the new trilogy.

I feel the main issue with episodes 7, 8 & 9 is that they've relied too much on characters and overall story from episodes 4, 5 & 6 which has come to a cost of story and character development for the new characters and elements in the new films. It needed Han, Leia, Luke, C3-PO, R2-D2, Chewie and in the end Palpetine far too much to advance the plot and solve the situations of the films. So they failed to establish their own true identity and thus cannot help but be compared to the original trilogy.

Yet look at Rouge One. The preamble to A New Hope. Death Star, Darth Vader, General Tarkin and a brief Leia. Yet the focus was on the new characters and their mission. So turned out a cracking film.
 
It was an enjoyable nostalgic romp of a couple of hours. But it was also very weak story wise like much of the new trilogy.

I feel the main issue with episodes 7, 8 & 9 is that they've relied too much on characters and overall story from episodes 4, 5 & 6 which has come to a cost of story and character development for the new characters and elements in the new films. It needed Han, Leia, Luke, C3-PO, R2-D2, Chewie and in the end Palpetine far too much to advance the plot and solve the situations of the films. So they failed to establish their own true identity and thus cannot help but be compared to the original trilogy.

Yet look at Rouge One. The preamble to A New Hope. Death Star, Darth Vader, General Tarkin and a brief Leia. Yet the focus was on the new characters and their mission. So turned out a cracking film.
The new fully crewed Imperial fleet emerging from the ground was pretty f***ing ridiculous in the new 'un. I can live with the Sauron/Voldermort style resurrection of Palpatine, but that was just fuckin' sackless.
 
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The new fully crewed Imperial fleet emerging from the ground was pretty f***ing ridiculous in the new 'un. I can live with the Sauron/Voldermort style resurrection of Palpatine, but that was just fuckin' sackless.
And to be honest I didn't fully understand what the issue was with going up and why the fleet needed some guidance. The Rebels weren't concerned about finding their way out of the atmosphere.
Was anyone else hoping when he got his memory back he was going tbh all "I was built by Darth Vader and ended up owned by his son coincidentally. The chances of that are too low for even me to calculate" or was it just me?
But the memory is some save file R2 had at some point during the new trilogy as he mentions going on his first mission with Rey, so he won't have a memory of his creation as that was already wiped.
 
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But the memory is some save file R2 had at some point during the new trilogy as he mentions going on his first mission with Rey, so he won't have a memory of his creation as that was already wiped.
They can go from about 8 rebels to an army between films and complain nobody wants to join them with a straight face, C3P0 getting back prequel memories isn't a stretch man.
 
They can go from about 8 rebels to an army between films and complain nobody wants to join them with a straight face, C3P0 getting back prequel memories isn't a stretch man.
To be honest they should have left him without getting his memories back. Don't really remember seeing him after R2 gives him his memories back until the end celebrations.
 
Was anyone else hoping when he got his memory back he was going tbh all "I was built by Darth Vader and ended up owned by his son coincidentally. The chances of that are too low for even me to calculate" or was it just me?

C3-P0's memory was erased by Bail Organa at the end of ROTS.

You probably already knew that, like.
 
Phantom menace!
Attack of the clones!
Revenge of the sith!

lucas is responsible for his fair share of crap too. I’m sure there was a good reason Disney didn’t go with his plan for 7,8,9. They should’ve taken some time to properly plan their own though. Completely disjointed trilogy.
They're worse from a "having fun at the cinema" point of view, but having seen the new trilogy, I'm going to stay with my earlier thoughts that they were, at least, fairly in continuitiy with the OS, and they added real information to the entire saga. Unlike the new 3.

I'd say "we'll see how people feel about them all in 10 years or so" because Star Wars used to be important like that. But now it isn't, nobody cares. And that's due to the new 3 films, frankly. They cashed in, rather than built on what came before.
When Rey is given the second light saber it's green, so she has a blue and a green one. But when her and ren are both fighting at the end they are both blue?
And then, by magic, she just happens to have an orange/gold one at the end. I thought those crystal things were f***ing impossible to find - hence why Kylo Ren had a dodgy one, causing his sabre to be unstable?
Just seen a rumour that Disney could be releasing a JJ Abrams cut of the film at the pictures in the next couple of months.

Will have a run time of 190 minutes
Wouldn't surprise me. The pacing was f***ing mental. Remember in when they just fucked off to that Casino Planet for about an hour for absolutely no f***ing good reason - filler - well, you have to let them off this time around, as its was a full of smash of actual content.
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Finally got round to seeing this yesterday...... wasn't hopefuly tbh, as I usually hate JJA's stuff - such as removing the requirement for star ships in Star Trek (personal teleportation devices that can take you literally anywhere), and then cured-f***ing-death in the same film.
But after when Rian Knobhead did in the last one, I thought "well, it can't be any worse".

And it wasn't. As something to sit in front of in the cinema, it was by far the best of the new 3. At no point did I sit and think "this is just exactly the same as before" (i.e. yet another death star, or yet another sheild to break down). And there were a ton of call-backs that had a lump in my throat - some bits were done very well indeed. Leia's role was nice, its such a shame they were limited to the material they had for her, but still, you'd never know.
I do need to watch it again, though.

But then he has to go and ruin it all, by doing something stupid like........... curing death. Again. FFS.

Also, no line up of force ghosts at the end? I really expected to see some people get 5 seconds on screen.
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Ah, one other thing I forgot to mention - he basically used the Star Trek transport shite again - since when can 2 people just fight via Skype? Its ridiculous. Drag and drop to transfer files (filename=spare_lightsabre.png)
If you just want Star Wars to be action films with no story/consistent plot at all I guess it’s decent.

If you care about story arcs and the lore of Star Wars and how it all fits together it’s an utter f***ing shambles. So much nonsense and it makes significant parts of the OT utterly irrelevant.
People don't seem to realise this. If you get the story right as well as the action, then you stay relevant, and you can make more films in future years.
If you cash in on the name, and produce something that nobody wants to re-watch, and the story hasn't been expanded, there's nothing to work with in future.
So am I correcting in thinking that Rey is the daughter of an incestuous relationship between Luke and Leia? That's why she's called Rey Skywalker with them together looking over her?
Its more that they welcomed her into their (wider) family, and accepted her for who she was. Agreeing with her choice to self-identify as a Skywalker in the end scene of the film.
Both Leia and Luke died from being knackered from using the force... lazy bassas
Leia having a quick word with Ben killed her.
Ben and Rey literally having a fight across the galaxy from eachother, and regularly talking to eachother and even passing items to eachother - totally fine.

Right.
What I saw last night won’t challenge that. They totally bottled it after the last Jedi and did some major retcon work. Not a peep about the emperor in the previous two Then they shoehorn him in due to backlash from the last film.
I enjoyed it for what it was and no doubt the bairns will love it but too much chopping and changing with where the story was going in this trilogy for me.
I'm going to let them off with this one.

Snope came out of thin air, had no back story, and died quickly - yet he had massive power and it was completely unexplained - something loads of us complained about earlier on.
So to find out it was a "creation" of Palpatine the whole time (if I understood that correctly?) makes a lot more sense to me.
It is man. The prequels were sterile affairs that moved nobody. There were numerous scenes in this when I thought my heart would burst out of my chest, and I was literally unable to speak when Chewie got his medal.
I know what you mean about the heart-wrenching scenes. Yep, they were missing from the prequels. If only they'd got the balance between action and story right in those, they could have been excellent. The prequels stand up better to rewatching, whereas the new trilogy were more fun in the cinema.
Just imo, of course.
 
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