Stan Collymore


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Its not disappointing really though. It'd be boring as fuck if football was like cricket or rugby and fans of opposing sides sat together "appreciating the sport".
Yeah much more entertaining singing childish songs to each other and having god knows how much wasted on policing because fans can't behave in a civilised manner.I can understand 14 and 15 year olds doing it but when I see grown men chanting songs at opposition fans it really is cringeworthy.
 
Well Dougie lad - I can only beg to differ. Derby games may be an exception - but there is absolutely no justification for not being able to stand and drink in large areas of football grounds - except past predjudices and the possibilty that health & safety are all rugby fans.

Can only be down to the powers that be lack of trust in football fans and given some of the behaviour we see on a regular basis inside stadiums I can understand why.

Well Dougie lad - I can only beg to differ. Derby games may be an exception - but there is absolutely no justification for not being able to stand and drink in large areas of football grounds - except past predjudices and the possibilty that health & safety are all rugby fans.

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Well Dougie lad - I can only beg to differ. Derby games may be an exception - but there is absolutely no justification for not being able to stand and drink in large areas of football grounds - except past predjudices and the possibilty that health & safety are all rugby fans.



Well Dougie lad - I can only beg to differ. Derby games may be an exception - but there is absolutely no justification for not being able to stand and drink in large areas of football grounds - except past predjudices and the possibilty that health & safety are all rugby fans.

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Dougie??
If you wish to bury head I sand then that's fine but the reasons are very apparent as far as I'm concerned. You don't have to delve too deep in this forum to see the type of Neanderthal fan that football throws up. Check through the cricket section and you'll be hard pushed to find the level of bile you find on this particular avenue of the SMB.
 
When it comes to bellend supporters, we are no where near you lot and your jiggery pokery.

Biting peoples lugs, caveman behaviour that, hence why you're not classy.

I haven't, nor do I intend to bite another person's ear lobe off at a game or anywhere else. You're using this incident to tar everyone who supports England in the same manner. That in itself lacks class, Scotsman.
 
Dougie??
If you wish to bury head I sand then that's fine but the reasons are very apparent as far as I'm concerned. You don't have to delve too deep in this forum to see the type of Neanderthal fan that football throws up. Check through the cricket section and you'll be hard pushed to find the level of bile you find on this particular avenue of the SMB.

That's probably because football is a proper sport that invokes emotion whereas cricket is slapping a ball about with a bit of wood.
 
That's probably because football is a proper sport that invokes emotion whereas cricket is slapping a ball about with a bit of wood.
Oh yes the old emotion and passion argument!
It would be interesting to see you in a net facing somebody bowling 90mph and see what emotion that stirs in you!
And how about rugby then? Is that not a proper sport?
 
Rugby fans and cricket fans manage to watch a game in a civilised manner.A lot (not all) football fans are loutish loudmouths who feel the price of a ticket gives them free reign to throw disgusting abuse at both opposing fans and players.
Pretty sure I saw a thread on here this morning talking about which footballer they would like to see get a kicking! It saddens me that a sport I enjoy and a club I have supported for 30 years have people like this associated with it.
Watching the Brazil/Chile game yesterday, those 2 sets of supporters were all mingling quite well.
Mind you, attending a world cup from another country, especially some of the S American nations requires big money, so one can only assume most of chile attendees are from the upper middle classes and thus are more likely to be quite 'genteel' in comparison to the average meathead attendee in domestic competitions.
I certainly don't agree that there is any excuse for fans to use football as an excuse to hurl obscenities or resort to violence just because the other team are...well the other team. It's stupid, pathetic and needs fully stamping on.
I believe it is better now than it was in the 70's/80's/90's, but there is still a hardcore of feral mongrels who need putting down
 
Watching the Brazil/Chile game yesterday, those 2 sets of supporters were all mingling quite well.
Mind you, attending a world cup from another country, especially some of the S American nations requires big money, so one can only assume most of chile attendees are from the upper middle classes and thus are more likely to be quite 'genteel' in comparison to the average meathead attendee in domestic competitions.
I certainly don't agree that there is any excuse for fans to use football as an excuse to hurl obscenities or resort to violence just because the other team are...well the other team. It's stupid, pathetic and needs fully stamping on.
I believe it is better now than it was in the 70's/80's/90's, but there is still a hardcore of feral mongrels who need putting down
Spot on.Intelligence and the SMB aren't exactly bedfellows mind so tread carefully. ;)
 
Dougie??
If you wish to bury head I sand then that's fine but the reasons are very apparent as far as I'm concerned. You don't have to delve too deep in this forum to see the type of Neanderthal fan that football throws up. Check through the cricket section and you'll be hard pushed to find the level of bile you find on this particular avenue of the SMB.


Yes - the answer is in your avatar!!

Agreed that footbal has it's fair share of "undesirables" - but if we have to organise the larger society with only them in mind we'd have to close all the pubs, 25% of classrooms, and impose a curfew after 6 pm. However, the law-abiding, socially acceptable vast majority of football fans should not have to put up with this ottp treatment from over-zealous, rugby-following whitehall nannies. If we were treated as socially responsible, mature individuals, then 99.9% would respond so - except for the proverbial, breathless one in every crowd.
 
Watching the Brazil/Chile game yesterday, those 2 sets of supporters were all mingling quite well.
Mind you, attending a world cup from another country, especially some of the S American nations requires big money, so one can only assume most of chile attendees are from the upper middle classes and thus are more likely to be quite 'genteel' in comparison to the average meathead attendee in domestic competitions.
I certainly don't agree that there is any excuse for fans to use football as an excuse to hurl obscenities or resort to violence just because the other team are...well the other team. It's stupid, pathetic and needs fully stamping on.
I believe it is better now than it was in the 70's/80's/90's, but there is still a hardcore of feral mongrels who need putting down

Do you not see the irony in you, of all people, putting others down who have decided to "hurl obscenities"?

I saw you accuse someone of having leanings toward the BNP the other day despite not one thing in his post indicating it. You're happy to throw baseless insults around cos you know mud sticks.

The fact is you're everything that Mr Jardine is criticising, no matter how much you pretend, but you're worse.

You're a cowardly, sniveling joke of a man who is a laughing stock amongst the board. You will happily throw insults around while you're safe behind your computer and thousands of miles away but you'll condemn those that do it in the terraces.

You're an embarrassment to humans, men and safc fans (and that's not even taking into account your European football knowledge - best young left back - wink wink)
 
Probably the worst...............................no definitely the worst losers in the Premier League by a f***ing mile, and I love it. The gift that keeps giving.

I don't mind Mags coming on here for some reasonable crack, but why would anyone over 10 years old join a forum and have such a provocative avatar ?


I think he will soon be forgotten, Poyet will see us right this season, and the style will be more imoprtant than individuals and names.


Im not sure that lad was thinking of love songs, but it is comedy after jack had lashed one past them!
 
Yes - the answer is in your avatar!!

Agreed that footbal has it's fair share of "undesirables" - but if we have to organise the larger society with only them in mind we'd have to close all the pubs, 25% of classrooms, and impose a curfew after 6 pm. However, the law-abiding, socially acceptable vast majority of football fans should not have to put up with this ottp treatment from over-zealous, rugby-following whitehall nannies. If we were treated as socially responsible, mature individuals, then 99.9% would respond so - except for the proverbial, breathless one in every crowd.
A fair share constitutes more than a breathless one mind.It is a shame that the minority spoil it for the majority but when that minority amounts to a reasonable number you can surely understand the reason for the measures which are taken.
Rugby and cricket don't have the history of problems which football has this is a FACT.
 
A fair share constitutes more than a breathless one mind.It is a shame that the minority spoil it for the majority but when that minority amounts to a reasonable number you can surely understand the reason for the measures which are taken.
Rugby and cricket don't have the history of problems which football has this is a FACT.

Rugby and cricket are boring as fuck and the atmosphere at rugby and cricket matches are shit. I'm glad football is nothing like either of them.
 
A fair share constitutes more than a breathless one mind.It is a shame that the minority spoil it for the majority but when that minority amounts to a reasonable number you can surely understand the reason for the measures which are taken.
Rugby and cricket don't have the history of problems which football has this is a FACT.

Cricket has more than enough problems of it's own. Match-fixing is rife, on field sledging is becoming a lot more aggressive and violence is being threatened more and more. Every sport has it's undesirables.
 
Cricket has more than enough problems of it's own. Match-fixing is rife, on field sledging is becoming a lot more aggressive and violence is being threatened more and more. Every sport has it's undesirables.
Sledging is no more a problem in cricket now than it ever has been.Obly difference is microphones pick up on it more.Do you really think back in the 70s lillee and Thompson were enquiring about the English batsmans dinner arrangements at the end of days play?
As for match fixing I agree that is an issue and steps are being taken to eradicate it however both issues you refer to are on field and have nothing to do with the spectator in the stands.

Rugby and cricket are boring as fuck and the atmosphere at rugby and cricket matches are shit. I'm glad football is nothing like either of them.
So football is only entertaining because of a selection of feral fans who sing abusive songs at each other? Nice to see somebody living up to the stereotype! :lol:
 
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Yeah much more entertaining singing childish songs to each other and having god knows how much wasted on policing because fans can't behave in a civilised manner.I can understand 14 and 15 year olds doing it but when I see grown men chanting songs at opposition fans it really is cringeworthy.

I'd hate to sit next to you at the match.
 
Sledging is no more a problem in cricket now than it ever has been.Obly difference is microphones pick up on it more.Do you really think back in the 70s lillee and Thompson were enquiring about the English batsmans dinner arrangements at the end of days play?
As for match fixing I agree that is an issue and steps are being taken to eradicate it however both issues you refer to are on field and have nothing to do with the spectator in the stands.


So football is only entertaining because of a selection of feral fans who sing abusive songs at each other? Nice to see somebody living up to the stereotype! :lol:

Where did I say that like? I said cricket and rugby are boring (which, imo, they are) and that the atmospheres are shit. Is football just entertaining because of people abusing each other etc? No, its more entertaining because its a better game but yes, the fact that it is more "tribal" and fans are kept apart and generate an atmosphere does contribute to the sport being better. Imagine if fans mixed every match with no home or away ends, it'd be shite
 
Where did I say that like? I said cricket and rugby are boring (which, imo, they are) and that the atmospheres are shit. Is football just entertaining because of people abusing each other etc? No, its more entertaining because its a better game but yes, the fact that it is more "tribal" and fans are kept apart and generate an atmosphere does contribute to the sport being better. Imagine if fans mixed every match with no home or away ends, it'd be shite
I have no problem with the opinion that football is a more entertaining sport than rugby or cricket but that has nothing to do with fans singing daft songs at each other.It wouldn't bother me in slightest if opposing fans sat together.
As I have said football has had so many off field issues over the years in comparison to other sports because of a fair percentage of fans who just can't behave themselves.Look at some of the posts on this forum and you will see the sort of person I'm referring to.
 
As we all know, football is a sport spread over a wide cross-section of society. It's inevitable the the less desirable elements of everyday life might also find its way into football stadiums.

The problems are nowhere near what they were in the 80's, where every single away trip had its inherent dangers, although the rule of thumb was if you didn't go looking for trouble, you wouldn't get caught up in it. Occasionally that rule didn't work out. I'm pleased we've left those times well and truly in the past.

It's the atmosphere of aggression that has stayed with football, though, and seems to be the accepted norm. Not the odd rude chant, but the gesturing between supporters, and the ridiculous amount of abuse that is dished out to an underperforming player, manager, or official. Nobody expects anyone to be angels but often it goes too far.

With regards to rugby, the atmosphere at internationals compare with all bar the most passionate of derby matches. Believe me, at Cardiff Arms Park, every single Welshman wants blood, English blood, and will shout long and hard for it. In between buying you a drink before and after the game. The hostility is there without the menace. The atmosphere in Australia last summer was something else, too.

Rugby League is kind of in between the two. The worst outbreak of hooliganism I've seen this decade was outside The Jungle after a Castleford v Wakefield derby match. Blood and punches were well in evidence. Yet they were standing with each other during the game, and although Wakefield had their designated end, there was no actual segregation.

It's a pity some can't behave themselves at the match as in other sports, but when it's the people's game, those who can't behave in everyday life will always be part of it - and I think rightly so, despite my misgivings.
 
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