Speakman interview on SAFC


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How so do you gather from one post that I believe I am deserving of special treatment? Strange assumption to make.

Demanding, and don't give much time? He's been in the job since the start of December mate. Plenty of time to plan for which ever division. I am demanding he leads a successful team behind the scenes, your right, because I am not at all content that we are in league one for a 4th year and can't bare the thought of a 5th. Guess some fans accept mediocrity....
Long term project I believe he and KLD have said several times. December to end of may and you think it's plenty of time and demand action not words?

Some good things will happen over the summer but the biggest and best changes won't be seen in the short term.
 
Speakman said that the first 45 minutes against Lincoln in the second leg is the closest we've seen to it. He's mentioned hard work, pace and attacking intent before, plus a high press.

I love that style of play, blood and thunder, graft, direct.

Obviously I'm looking at it a little blind as I don't know how the summer will pan out but aspects of the retained list isn't cohesive with it.
 
Probably not, one thing is certain, there is no correlation between playing ability and becoming a top manager.

If there's any kind of correlation, it's an inverse one. Top players often find it hard to manage because, for the most part, the players they're coaching don't have the same kinds of skill they did. On the other hand, people like Wenger and Tuchel had very modest playing careers.
 
If there's any kind of correlation, it's an inverse one. Top players often find it hard to manage because, for the most part, the players they're coaching don't have the same kinds of skill they did. On the other hand, people like Wenger and Tuchel had very modest playing careers.

Couldn't agree more Grumps.
 
As you mentioned Poyets ball retention across the back line was derided by large sections of the fan base as boring.

Team wise I guess the Peter Reid era is as close to a long term playing identity - big man, little man up top. Right side delivering crosses. Left side more interaction and creativity. A grafter and a passer in the middle. But we had a number of ‘freaks’ relying on finding another Quinn or Summerbee is big footesque.

Then you look at the clubs cult heroes and the type of player they were. John Kay, Kevin Ball and Nyron Nosworthy spring to mind. Tackles celebrated like goals.

Speakman has a job on!
What you describe is a 442 . Which is obsolete. Look at the clubs heroes as well . Carter , Shackleton, Hughes , Rowell , Quinn , Phillips , Montgomery, Hurley, Watson , Defoe and lots of others all had quality in abundance. Provide a team of quality and we as a fan base won’t crave a tough tackling cult hero
 
I love that style of play, blood and thunder, graft, direct.

Obviously I'm looking at it a little blind as I don't know how the summer will pan out but aspects of the retained list isn't cohesive with it.
What about quality . What about composure and quality on the ball . Blood thunder and graft is what we did under Ball against Nan Utd and Liverpool and then run out of legs and get picked off . The same as Lincoln did
 
What about quality . What about composure and quality on the ball . Blood thunder and graft is what we did under Ball against Nan Utd and Liverpool and then run out of legs and get picked off . The same as Lincoln did
I get what your saying, although we both want the same thing as in we win, there are very different ways to go about it.

My preference is endeavour over skill. Would be nice to have the upmost of both but thats not likely.

We did get picked off against Lincoln but we gave it a good go and half of my point is there is no good reason to play in that manner when our players attributes are far from suited to it.
 
There are little aspects to it that seem fragmented to me, like you say poyet would be one of them.

This identity stuff and tailoring it to the city seems a little fluffy. A club identity imo is a specific manner of playing with charecterics of the players suiting it. I'm not sure if it has to be urgent high press because of the city.

Also if this place is anything to go by, hard work and tackles are no longer a priority.
Presenting it that way may be fluffy but I think it’s a valid and sensible approach. It may not need to be that because of the city but I’d say it does because of the fan base, at least to be successful.

They’ve identified our match going fans as something that sets us apart from a lot of other clubs (I won’t write USP as I’ll get crucified for it), we all know it can be an asset but that, at times, can be a burden. It’s something that should be utilised or when things are going badly mitigated against. Then you only need to look at the Lincoln game to know what gets the fans going and what we respond to. It wasn’t Poyet’s preferred brand of football.
 
What you describe is a 442 . Which is obsolete. Look at the clubs heroes as well . Carter , Shackleton, Hughes , Rowell , Quinn , Phillips , Montgomery, Hurley, Watson , Defoe and lots of others all had quality in abundance. Provide a team of quality and we as a fan base won’t crave a tough tackling cult hero

You are getting bogged down in numbers. Formations aren’t rigid man. FIFA and FM has a lot to answer for.

Line up in a 442 but ask your fullbacks to push on and a midfield to drop and you’ve got a 352. It’s fluid. Have a look at average positional data and there’s very little uniformity in any shape or pattern of play.

And if you think we can attract the ilk of players you mention in League One? The league cries out for pace, power and physicality in terms of individuality. Team wise it’s simple football played at tempo while counter attack and error exploitation are primary attacking avenues.

We’ve had individuals, the sum of our individuals wasn’t enough to be the team ethos of League One.

We aren’t preparing a playing identity that is the finished article this summer, we are creating a solid framework to start the journey. Creating a tactically aware team of 7/10ers not relying on single point of risk players in the ilk of McGeady.
 
I love that style of play, blood and thunder, graft, direct.

Obviously I'm looking at it a little blind as I don't know how the summer will pan out but aspects of the retained list isn't cohesive with it.
If you’re thinking Scowen going and McGeady being offered a new contract then I’d be inclined to agree.

I guess it depends how they see McGeady. Perhaps he’ll be a bit part player from the bench on greatly reduced wages. An option in games in which the press is ineffective. Perhaps the offer is largely to placate the fans.
 
Presenting it that way may be fluffy but I think it’s a valid and sensible approach. It may not need to be that because of the city but I’d say it does because of the fan base, at least to be successful.

They’ve identified our match going fans as something that sets us apart from a lot of other clubs (I won’t write USP as I’ll get crucified for it), we all know it can be an asset but that, at times, can be a burden. It’s something that should be utilised or when things are going badly mitigated against. Then you only need to look at the Lincoln game to know what gets the fans going and what we respond to. It wasn’t Poyet’s preferred brand of football.

Maybe there is something in it, but its fractions to me. We win and they'll be happy, we lose and many wont regardless of identity.

I don't think we should style a club on an impression that 45 minutes provided. Suits me fine as its my preference mind.

Either way, I'm just a little apprehensive that the decisions fully buy into it.
If you’re thinking Scowen going and McGeady being offered a new contract then I’d be inclined to agree.

I guess it depends how they see McGeady. Perhaps he’ll be a bit part player from the bench on greatly reduced wages. An option in games in which the press is ineffective. Perhaps the offer is largely to placate the fans.

I am but I'm making an effort not to say mcgeady in every post as the thread deteriorates quickly once I do.

Could be the latter and that is their manner of managing the fan base, who knows, blind at this point but I'm looking forward to how this summer pans out.
 
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If you’re thinking Scowen going and McGeady being offered a new contract then I’d be inclined to agree.

I guess it depends how they see McGeady. Perhaps he’ll be a bit part player from the bench on greatly reduced wages. An option in games in which the press is ineffective. Perhaps the offer is largely to placate the fans.

The contract offers are token gestures imo.

To not offer contracts to the top assist maker and a 30 goal striker reflects poorly on the club in the industry. Success has to be rewarded - that said it doesn’t mean that the offers are ‘serious’ offers designed to keep the players!

As a club we don’t want to be telling our next No9 that even if you score 30 goals we will bin you off!
 
I can understand a lot of scepticism due to all the lies Donald told but I'm not sure what people expected them to do in six months an no real transfer window. (KLD wasn't in charge in Jan, and we still had the wage cap).

The next few months are when the action needs to start matching the talk. I'm for one looking forward to it.
 
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