Speakman interview on SAFC


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No of course not! I'm saying he didn't give a press conference saying he'd be researching what the club's identity was. Presumably cos he, like us, like anyone with an interest in football, already knew!
I didn't realise what I said was so confusing.
So what is Sunderland AFCs identity? And more importantly what should it be?
 
Kristian Speakman headed up recruitment at Birmingham, have a look how they done in last few years with him in charge, with bundles of wages to spend he made a right dog’s dinner of it.
We have Stewart Harvey let him run recruitment, Speakman needs to stay out of it.
Speakman didn't head up recruitment at Birmingham.
He worked solely with the academy and developing young players.
Only in his last year did he have any involvement with the first team
"Speakman needs to stay out of it"
He's our Sporting Director brought in to manage a team looking after all of the footballing aspects of the club
of course he's going to have input to Recruitment.
 
That’s a very interesting question!
It’s the most important IMO. If we use the idea that it’s emerges naturally over time, as per what has been claimed about United, I don’t think we’re going to get a very encouraging answer:lol:

Truth is we need to define it for ourselves and then work towards it. I go back to the Poyet example. People fondly remember the Poyet times because there’s a neat gif that shows a moment when it was at its best. Long term, would ultra possession football get on the collective tits of the fan base? My guess is yeah. We need to set a playing style that gets the crowd going more often than not. Do that and we might actually be known for something other than 70 years of mostly failure.
Safc’s identity should be predominantly based around us signing young northern players who are good athletes, with good attitudes and tough edge to them.
When so many of the very best players are London lads these days I think we’d be cutting our noses off to spite our face. Personally I reckon we should be trying to get some more players in who’ve come out of big cities. It brings with it an attitude that works well. Agree with the other bits though.
 
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It’s the most important IMO. If we use the idea that it’s emerges naturally over time, as per what has been claimed about United, I don’t think we’re going to get a very encouraging answer:lol:

Truth is we need to define it for ourselves and then work towards it. I go back to the Poyet example. People fondly remember the Poyet times because there’s a neat gif that shows a moment when it was at its best. Long term, would ultra possession football get on the collective tits of the fan base? My guess is yeah. We need to set a playing style that gets the crowd going more often than not. Do that and we might actually be known for something other than 70 years of mostly failure.
I’ve just written that on another thread. I’ve mentioned it before but it’s my main reservation about the new hierarchy at the club - they’ve alluded to the culture they want to install and that it’s one to utilise the crowd which I think is right - but then apparently Poyet was their first pick as coach and his style can be the antithesis to that.

Seems a little scattergun in approach or letting the coach dictate the culture which is the wrong way around and what we’ve wrongly done before. The tail shouldn’t wag the dog.

It was only rumours mind and everything I’ve heard since has been encouraging.
 
It’s the most important IMO. If we use the idea that it’s emerges naturally over time, as per what has been claimed about United, I don’t think we’re going to get a very encouraging answer:lol:

Truth is we need to define it for ourselves and then work towards it. I go back to the Poyet example. People fondly remember the Poyet times because there’s a neat gif that shows a moment when it was at its best. Long term, would ultra possession football get on the collective tits of the fan base? My guess is yeah. We need to set a playing style that gets the crowd going more often than not. Do that and we might actually be known for something other than 70 years of mostly failure.

As you mentioned Poyets ball retention across the back line was derided by large sections of the fan base as boring.

Team wise I guess the Peter Reid era is as close to a long term playing identity - big man, little man up top. Right side delivering crosses. Left side more interaction and creativity. A grafter and a passer in the middle. But we had a number of ‘freaks’ relying on finding another Quinn or Summerbee is big footesque.

Then you look at the clubs cult heroes and the type of player they were. John Kay, Kevin Ball and Nyron Nosworthy spring to mind. Tackles celebrated like goals.

Speakman has a job on!
 
I’ve just written that on another thread. I’ve mentioned it before but it’s my main reservation about the new hierarchy at the club - they’ve alluded to the culture they want to install and that it’s one to utilise the crowd which I think is right - but then apparently Poyet was their first pick as coach and his style can be the antithesis to that.

Seems a little scattergun in approach or letting the coach dictate the culture which is the wrong way around and what we’ve wrongly done before. The tail shouldn’t wag the dog.

It was only rumours mind and everything I’ve heard since has been encouraging.
Yup. That was a big worry for me too. Also the fact that he’s a massive drama queen who has fallen out with every single club he’s been employed by and has an ideological problem with the dof model. All added up to the wrong choice IMO.
 
Sounds like you know more than me on the subject, I had assumed he was academy director and fulfilled the roles associated with it.

His stock rose dramatically alongside Karanka and was involved at a club wide level including first team from a strategic and recruitment level.

Interesting to see that they looked elsewhere for a Sporting Director though. Not worrying just interesting.
 
Give him a fuckin chance man.
He’s been here 5 minutes.

Of course
So what is Sunderland AFCs identity? And more importantly what should it be?


Proud but underachieving football club based in a proud geographical location, blessed with a fanbase of mainly local supporters who historically link the club to the morals and virtues of the people who came before them and supported the same club. Tough and proud but kind, and always willing to give outsiders with apprently good intentions the benefit of the doubt.

Waiting (in hope) for the day they see talent mixed with toughness and genuine understanding of what it means to represent SUNDERLAND, success would be a bonus, absolute pure grit and effort is a necessity.
 
Why are we not playing our academy players Spackman? Why have we got the most expensive academy in league one but it seems to be one of the least productive?
its vry productive..it produced gooch and diamind who played for us..nd embelrton who won promotion with blakcpool..you wotn get a better performing on than that at this level..
 
I’ve just written that on another thread. I’ve mentioned it before but it’s my main reservation about the new hierarchy at the club - they’ve alluded to the culture they want to install and that it’s one to utilise the crowd which I think is right - but then apparently Poyet was their first pick as coach and his style can be the antithesis to that.

Seems a little scattergun in approach or letting the coach dictate the culture which is the wrong way around and what we’ve wrongly done before. The tail shouldn’t wag the dog.

It was only rumours mind and everything I’ve heard since has been encouraging.
There are little aspects to it that seem fragmented to me, like you say poyet would be one of them.

This identity stuff and tailoring it to the city seems a little fluffy. A club identity imo is a specific manner of playing with charecterics of the players suiting it. I'm not sure if it has to be urgent high press because of the city.

Also if this place is anything to go by, hard work and tackles are no longer a priority.
 
It’s the most important IMO. If we use the idea that it’s emerges naturally over time, as per what has been claimed about United, I don’t think we’re going to get a very encouraging answer:lol:

Truth is we need to define it for ourselves and then work towards it. I go back to the Poyet example. People fondly remember the Poyet times because there’s a neat gif that shows a moment when it was at its best. Long term, would ultra possession football get on the collective tits of the fan base? My guess is yeah. We need to set a playing style that gets the crowd going more often than not. Do that and we might actually be known for something other than 70 years of mostly failure.

When so many of the very best players are London lads these days I think we’d be cutting our noses off to spite our face. Personally I reckon we should be trying to get some more players in who’ve come out of big cities. It brings with it an attitude that works well. Agree with the other bits though.

Speakman said that the first 45 minutes against Lincoln in the second leg is the closest we've seen to it. He's mentioned hard work, pace and attacking intent before, plus a high press.
 
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I’ve just written that on another thread. I’ve mentioned it before but it’s my main reservation about the new hierarchy at the club - they’ve alluded to the culture they want to install and that it’s one to utilise the crowd which I think is right - but then apparently Poyet was their first pick as coach and his style can be the antithesis to that.

Seems a little scattergun in approach or letting the coach dictate the culture which is the wrong way around and what we’ve wrongly done before. The tail shouldn’t wag the dog.

It was only rumours mind and everything I’ve heard since has been encouraging.
Yes get that mate,but poyet did play attacking expansive footy at Brighton in the lower leagues they kept knocking the mags out of cups.It was only up in the prem that he started with footy to slash your wrists too.
 
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