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I'm not sure how much worse England were than that Portugal side in the recent euro's, or Greece in 2004.

It's tournament football, anything can happen, it's not likely England are going to win it or even by in the latter stages, but it's better for the players to at least believe they can as oppose to not believing it at all.
 
I'm not sure how much worse England were than that Portugal side in the recent euro's, or Greece in 2004.

It's tournament football, anything can happen, it's not likely England are going to win it or even by in the latter stages, but it's better for the players to at least believe they can as oppose to not believing it at all.

Exactly. Even the worst England team ever can’t of been as bad as that Greek bunch....and they won it. Shows what good management, planning, scouting, tactics, coaching, attitude and a willingness to both learn, listen and apply themselves can do........hmmmm. England have no chance.
 
No you wouldn't, you'd think people were pleased with the effort and think we might at least give a decent account of ourselves at the world cup. Whilst 1-0 up I suggested last 16 is about expected, anything else is a bonus. No one thinks we're going to win the World Cup man, everyone can name plenty of better sides. It isn't about winning it though, it's about having a side to be proud of and enjoying the competition. Most sides won't get near to winning it. Some seem to think that if we aren't better than Brazil, Germany, Argentina, France and Spain that its somehow a failure. I just want to see us perform as well as we can, if we went out in the quarters I'd be gutted, but I'd be proud of our efforts
Fuckin hell.
What's garn on here like, someone talking with some perspective and sense about England.
 
Killer instinct, this is why they will always perform better than England in major tournaments
Some result that mind.

Much weakened Argentina side tonight like. Still a very impressive score line mind.

People go on about how weak the Scots PL is but what I saw of the Argies top league it's dire.
 
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No you wouldn't, you'd think people were pleased with the effort and think we might at least give a decent account of ourselves at the world cup. Whilst 1-0 up I suggested last 16 is about expected, anything else is a bonus. No one thinks we're going to win the World Cup man, everyone can name plenty of better sides. It isn't about winning it though, it's about having a side to be proud of and enjoying the competition. Most sides won't get near to winning it. Some seem to think that if we aren't better than Brazil, Germany, Argentina, France and Spain that its somehow a failure. I just want to see us perform as well as we can, if we went out in the quarters I'd be gutted, but I'd be proud of our efforts
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No you wouldn't, you'd think people were pleased with the effort and think we might at least give a decent account of ourselves at the world cup. Whilst 1-0 up I suggested last 16 is about expected, anything else is a bonus. No one thinks we're going to win the World Cup man, everyone can name plenty of better sides. It isn't about winning it though, it's about having a side to be proud of and enjoying the competition. Most sides won't get near to winning it. Some seem to think that if we aren't better than Brazil, Germany, Argentina, France and Spain that its somehow a failure. I just want to see us perform as well as we can, if we went out in the quarters I'd be gutted, but I'd be proud of our efforts

That’s been the problem though.....dominating qualifying then letting ourselves down badly in tournaments. We were shocking at the last two.
 
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