Spain passes law giving menstrual leave


Welcome to the world of being a woman.

Those wheelchairs really get in the way of people doing a good job, man!

I find it very telling that SMB doesn’t seem to think that a small business owner could ever be a woman of childbearing age themselves.
whos said that? maybe the small business owner of child bearing age would also decide to take on men from a business perspective if such laws came in here.
 
Is that supposed to be an insult?
Woke certainly can be used as a pejorative.
I find 'wokism' can be a form of extremism. Immediate ad hominem using terms such as racism or the ~phobia suffix (which is a crap, contrived and meaningless term) against anyone not 'towing the line' with the latest 'edict' on what we should think or feel.

There's no debate, no sensible discussion, these slurs are dished out and the ball is well and truly taken home.
Nicola Sturgeon found out the hard way that blindily following the woke crowd can get you into a lot of trouble.
Welcome to the world of being a woman.

Those wheelchairs really get in the way of people doing a good job, man!

I find it very telling that SMB doesn’t seem to think that a small business owner could ever be a woman of childbearing age themselves.

You think men don't have challenges? You might want to think about that.

Wheelchair use doesn't necessarily mean the user can't have an excellent attendance record and do a first class job. You wouldn't employ such a person to replace an insulator on an electricity pylon, though, would you?! Ther's plenty of jobs where wheelchair use is of no consequence. Common sense excludes wheelchair users from some jobs, that's another hard fact of life.

Your last sentence has me a bit puzzled. Of course they could, no one said different. I'm sure they'll employ women of childbearing age and put their noble feminist values before their business. :lol:

It's just us nasty men who wouldn't, of course...
 
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whos said that? maybe the small business owner of child bearing age would also decide to take on men from a business perspective if such laws came in here.
What does the sole trader/small business owner do when she has Menstrual Pain? What does she do when she wants children? How does she work?
Woke certainly can be used as a pejorative.
I find 'wokism' can be a form of extremism. Immediate ad hominem using terms such as racism or the ~phobia suffix (which is a crap, contrived and meaningless term) against anyone not 'towing the line' with the latest 'edict' on what we should think or feel.

There's no debate, no sensible discussion, these slurs are dished out and the ball is well and truly taken home.
Nicola Sturgeon found out the hard way that blindily following the woke crowd can get you into a lot of trouble.


You think men don't have challenges? You might want to think about that.

Wheelchair use doesn't necessarily mean the user can't have an excellent attendance record and do a first class job. You wouldn't employ such a person to replace an insulator on an electricity pylon, though, would you?! Ther's plenty of jobs where wheelchair use is of no consequence. Common sense excludes wheelchair users from some jobs, that's another hard fact of life.

Your last sentence has me a bit puzzled. Of course they could, no one said different. I'm sure they'll employ women of childbearing age and put their noble feminist values before their business. :lol:

It's just us nasty men who wouldn't, of course...
What about women who don’t employ anyone?

How do they manage running a small business with all of those women problems?
 
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What does the sole trader/small business owner do when she has Menstrual Pain? What does she do when she wants children? How does she work?

I was a stay at home Dad when we had kids, we survived on one low wage, my wife (no) being on the bottom rung in the civil service.
It's called life, and it can be a case of 'tough shit'. Choose starting a family - be prepared to have your life turned upside down.
 
Thats the choice of the business owner as its her business.
What choice does she have exactly?
I was a stay at home Dad when we had kids, we survived on one low wage, my wife (no) being on the bottom rung in the civil service.
It's called life, and it can be a case of 'tough shit'. Choose starting a family - be prepared to have your life turned upside down.
And choose to have painful periods?
 
To either go to work or employ some one else to cover while she isnt there. Guess they also have to plan ahead more when it comes to starting a family and having children. don't get what point you're trying to make.
People are saying on this thread that they and small business owners won’t employ women because of menstrual leave and having kids.

Sole trader women, like our very own @becs iirc, don’t have the choice. They ARE the employees. They have to give their employees menstrual leave because they can’t function when they’re ill. They have to give their employees maternity leave. They don’t have the choice to employ men instead of them because they are the business.
It's a terrible thing, but many of us have terrible and debilitating medical conditions. I'm not meaning to be unkind, but what makes menstrual pain sufferers special?
It doesn’t. Debilitating menstrual conditions get given time off. Just as menstrual leave does in Spain now. It’s good isn’t it?
 
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People are saying on this thread that they and small business owners won’t employ women because of menstrual leave and having kids.

Sole trader women, like our very own @becs iirc, don’t have the choice. They ARE the employees. They have to give their employees menstrual leave because they can’t function when they’re ill. They have to give their employees maternity leave. They don’t have the choice to employ men instead of them because they are the business.

It doesn’t. Debilitating menstrual conditions get given time off. Just as menstrual leave does in Spain now. It’s good isn’t it?
honesty got no idea what point you're trying to make, just a load of nonsensical waffle.
 
That’s because you’re a man. You’ve never had to worry about this before. This is why Spain has brought in the law.
My only opinion on it has been it may put people off employing women who own smaller businesses as taking on a man becomes the better option from a financial perspective.
 
Aye it will, we also have age discrimination laws and its blatently obvious firms aren't going to give old people equal opportunity. People will do what they thinks best from a business perspective at the end of the day.
 
My only opinion on it has been it may put people off employing women who own smaller businesses as taking on a man becomes the better option from a financial perspective.
Women should probably think twice about starting a business too, in that case. You know, with all the extra hassle that comes with female employees.
 
Women should probably think twice about starting a business too, in that case. You know, with all the extra hassle that comes with female employees.
What on earth are you going on about? i know you're trying to show yourself as being all progressive name dropping women and patting yourself on the back but no one is being sexist.
 
People are saying on this thread that they and small business owners won’t employ women because of menstrual leave and having kids.

Sole trader women, like our very own @becs iirc, don’t have the choice. They ARE the employees. They have to give their employees menstrual leave because they can’t function when they’re ill. They have to give their employees maternity leave. They don’t have the choice to employ men instead of them because they are the business.

It doesn’t. Debilitating menstrual conditions get given time off. Just as menstrual leave does in Spain now. It’s good isn’t it?

I'm freelance. If I don't work, I don't get paid.

Interesting to see I'd be written off by men on here simply because I look of childbearing and menstrual age.
 
I'm freelance. If I don't work, I don't get paid.

Interesting to see I'd be written off by men on here simply because I look of childbearing and menstrual age.

I thought we had progressed and such things weren't as important compared to the persons skill set for a job, but it seems maybe people will judge a book by its cover, I can see it now in an interview...

So Mrs X your CV looks fantastic and we are very happy with your skill set, but I have just two questions I have to ask, planning on kids and if not are you taking the right measures to avoid accidents ohh and hows your monthly's. :oops:

Lad who had a allotment next to me took 3 months off every year on the sick, it was the max he could get away with paid, always had sick notes and was nothing the company could do about it, seems under the Bradford formula 1 long sick is better than many days off at different times. No idea how he got away with it, last I heard he got caught drinking on the job the daft git, that give the company an out, but the 4 years I had the garden he did it every year.
 

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