Southgate confirmed to stay.


I'd go for Thomas Tuchel. He's proven at winning things.

I think he'd be brave and make the right tactical decisions and the right times.

His record on paper looks good (Southgate this is) but ultimately he fails everytime when it truly matters.

Tuchel lucked out at Chelsea with the CL. Might as well sign Di Matteo as England manager.

Didn't really do much at PSG given the money. They sacked him PDQ.

His record on paper doesn't look that good. No international experience, but some decent results where owners throw money at the team.
 
He wasn’t at the time he was taken off.

Nevertheless, we could look at some of the world’s best coaches and they’d probably fall at a similar stage. Has Guardiola, who is considered the best, done particularly well on the European stage in knock out football? How many attempts has he had with superb quality at his disposal without victory? Has Pochettino got any of his clubs over the line in European knock out football?

Fact of the matter is, we’ve possibly four players that would definitely get into the starting XIs of top international sides. That means quarter finals to finals is our level. We’ve achieved that and got within a kick of a trophy under Southgate.

I think he might have reached his shelf life, that happens under all managers, and I think it’s the right time for a change because any slip up will turn toxic sharpish. But I’m far from convinced that any coach in world football is going to come in and improve our fortunes markedly

I’d agree with that but I think it’s worth trying. Our aim has to be to win a trophy and I think three tournaments is a fair crack of the whip.
 
He fucked up v Italy & fucked v France
We look better but Southgate is a defence first manager cautious by approach
With that squad we should be doing better
I think there’s a broader context than that. Italy was the stinger and the one I think he will have regrets over and deserved at least some level of criticism. At the time we played Croatia we had developed in 18 months from a team that had been humiliated by Iceland to a w/c semi where we were narrowly but deservedly beaten by a better side. France similarly we lost to the world champions in a great game. It’s not serial failure it’s consistently good performance.
 
I’d agree with that but I think it’s worth trying. Our aim has to be to win a trophy and I think three tournaments is a fair crack of the whip.

It’s only four years in the job however. Expectations were so low in 2018 and he got us to a semi final. Regardless of the draw, that was an achievement. Expectation increased for the Euros and we lost by a kick in a shootout. And we’ve just been beaten by the world’s best. I think one more tournament would be a fair crack of the whip but I fear him staying on is going to lead to some real media and fan toxicity.
 
Another kop out.

At least Be Here Now has the balls to post his idea of a solution.

If I had to choose I’d go for Tuchel or Potter. Nothing to do with now having balls mate - I’m talking football on a message board to strangers. Nice dodge of the question I asked though.
 
I think there’s a broader context than that. Italy was the stinger and the one I think he will have regrets over and deserved at least some level of criticism. At the time we played Croatia we had developed in 18 months from a team that had been humiliated by Iceland to a w/c semi where we were narrowly but deservedly beaten by a better side. France similarly we lost to the world champions in a great game. It’s not serial failure it’s consistently good performance.
I agree with some of that
He stubborn in his approach & very regimental
He’s got a good pool of players , if he changed it up more we would probably have made the semis
 
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It’s only four years in the job however. Expectations were so low in 2018 and he got us to a semi final. Regardless of the draw, that was an achievement. Expectation increased for the Euros and we lost by a kick in a shootout. And we’ve just been beaten by the world’s best. I think one more tournament would be a fair crack of the whip but I fear him staying on is going to lead to some real media and fan toxicity.

Hopefully it won’t. I would change it but will also always want him to do well and would be buzzing if he proved me wrong and won a tournament.
 

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