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Its relevant, I just think they do get too much praise for the financial thing, some extra costs you expect, but the main issue in the club was the debt, and its gone

It wasn't gone though was it??

Appointments (managerial) - 8/10
Hoping JR can be our Peter Reid, early days but I like him, he seems to understand the game and the club well enough

Appointments (player) - 6/10
Other than Maguire, Power, McLaughlin and Baldwin the incomings haven't been that inspiring and we have been left short up front and not enough quality at the back.

Connection with fans - 10/10
The personal approach, passion and all round game from Donald and Charlie and now Juan has been spot on

Financial - 9/10
As far as I can see they have dealt with the takeover impeccably and the N'Dong/Papy affairs pretty well

Team Performance 7/10
For a new team playing together for the first time you can't fault them however as previously said we are short or have bought players not quite right for this league that has meant we are on a bit of catch up

So a median of 8/10 for me.

Flanagan and Sinclair look decent
 
why swear ?? I smell gravy
Ease up mate. He has his opinions and he’s entitled to present them in his own way, same as the rest of us. Doesn’t make him a mag. Maybe try addressing the post and not the poster. If you’d rather not, then there’s real mags more deserving of your attention than this lad will ever be.
 
Ease up mate. He has his opinions and he’s entitled to present them in his own way, same as the rest of us. Doesn’t make him a mag. Maybe try addressing the post and not the poster. If you’d rather not, then there’s real mags more deserving of your attention than this lad will ever be.

I was constantly called a mag when I joined up and even had to prove I wasn't lol. He may not be a mag but I bet if it goes tits up with the new owners him and others will show themselves up as being aa bad as mags.
 
I was constantly called a mag when I joined up and even had to prove I wasn't lol. He may not be a mag but I bet if it goes tits up with the new owners him and others will show themselves up as being aa bad as mags.
I remember well all the gip you got got when you first came on here mate. There are perpetual whiners on here that will never change if we won the champions league. There are WUMs that don’t give a shit about the club and just love to piss people off. There are others that can’t wait for things to go tits up just so they can say I told you so. On the other hand there are genuine supporters that have views and concerns that may not always appear as positive as others, this doesn’t make them mags or any of the above. It doesn’t mean they deserve to be castigated or ostracised because they see things differently. That’s what those f***ing cultists up the road do. Just have a look at their forums.
I’d hate to think this forum ended up like that.
 
I remember well all the gip you got got when you first came on here mate. There are perpetual whiners on here that will never change if we won the champions league. There are WUMs that don’t give a shit about the club and just love to piss people off. There are others that can’t wait for things to go tits up just so they can say I told you so. On the other hand there are genuine supporters that have views and concerns that may not always appear as positive as others, this doesn’t make them mags or any of the above. It doesn’t mean they deserve to be castigated or ostracised because they see things differently. That’s what those f***ing cultists up the road do. Just have a look at their forums.
I’d hate to think this forum ended up like that.

I know im getting a rep as being intollerent to peoples views but if that person has a really good concern then fair enough....but i have not seen ONE so called concern that merits the stick some give SD and Methven. And if you look through some of these so called fans past posts its nothing but gloom and doom about Sunderland as a football club or place...and you wonder why i get narked?? I have been called a mag, unhinged a wanker, a nobody a weirdo and a c*nt !! For what??? Defending the club I love from absolute negative bollocks....i will never stop defending them
 
I know im getting a rep as being intollerent to peoples views but if that person has a really good concern then fair enough....but i have not seen ONE so called concern that merits the stick some give SD and Methven. And if you look through some of these so called fans past posts its nothing but gloom and doom about Sunderland as a football club or place...and you wonder why i get narked?? I have been called a mag, unhinged a wanker, a nobody a weirdo and a c*nt !! For what??? Defending the club I love from absolute negative bollocks....i will never stop defending them
As I posted previously I remember all the shite you got. You are entitled to defend the club where necessary and I do the same myself. All I would suggest is you choose your targets a little more carefully but that’s up to yourself. Some of the posters you mentioned are not and never will be mags. They have different opinions, they have different ways of dealing with decades ( with a few notable exceptions) of shite. They are being cautious not unreasonable, and although it may appear odd to the more optimistic posters, of which I am one, it doesn’t make them mags.
 
As I posted previously I remember all the shite you got. You are entitled to defend the club where necessary and I do the same myself. All I would suggest is you choose your targets a little more carefully but that’s up to yourself. Some of the posters you mentioned are not and never will be mags. They have different opinions, they have different ways of dealing with decades ( with a few notable exceptions) of shite. They are being cautious not unreasonable, and although it may appear odd to the more optimistic posters, of which I am one, it doesn’t make them mags.

I assume you know some of them personally....and i'm sure if they go on like that with their fellow SAFC fans they will get just as much abuse and told to shut their gobs often enough. One of them might even be the 2 blokes i had a go at v Charlton for the constant constant whinging through the match :)
 
Because i din't like the moaners? Aye geet weird :) actually you know fcuk you and your littlle moaning cult !! If im getting upset by 5 or 6 muppets that proclaim to be Sunderland supporters then maybe I need to take a chill pill :) you are nothing and don't speak for the majority of right minded fans as echoed during this thread :) very very sad individuals !!!

Like I said.....weird.
 
I assume you know some of them personally....and i'm sure if they go on like that with their fellow SAFC fans they will get just as much abuse and told to shut their gobs often enough. One of them might even be the 2 blokes i had a go at v Charlton for the constant constant whinging through the match :)
How can you be so sure? And since when has having a different opinion on a shared cause been grounds for shouting down said opinion? That’s how they do things in North Korea and Newcastle mate.
 
How can you be so sure? And since when has having a different opinion on a shared cause been grounds for shouting down said opinion? That’s how they do things in North Korea and Newcastle mate.

Im not upset by a difference of opinion mate??? But when that opinion is utter bollocks then im allowed to disagree :) thats all i'm saying....I will agree to disagree, as I do with certain views in this world
 
Im not upset by a difference of opinion mate??? But when that opinion is utter bollocks then im allowed to disagree :) thats all i'm saying....I will agree to disagree, as I do with certain views in this world
Very true. Remember it’s your opinion that their opinions are bollocks. Doesn’t make it the truth, and vice versa.
 
I know im getting a rep as being intollerent to peoples views but if that person has a really good concern then fair enough....but i have not seen ONE so called concern that merits the stick some give SD and Methven. And if you look through some of these so called fans past posts its nothing but gloom and doom about Sunderland as a football club or place...and you wonder why i get narked?? I have been called a mag, unhinged a wanker, a nobody a weirdo and a c*nt !! For what??? Defending the club I love from absolute negative bollocks....i will never stop defending them

You haven't seen one concern? read that thread, absolutely nobody is wildly criticising them

You are so intolerant its unreal, I can't even imagine how you would react if people really did criticise them.

No fans are posting nothing but doom and gloom, that is completely in your head

For some reason, you can't take any remote constructive criticism. I hope you are not like this at work, genuinely
 
You haven't seen one concern? read that thread, absolutely nobody is wildly criticising them

You are so intolerant its unreal, I can't even imagine how you would react if people really did criticise them.

No fans are posting nothing but doom and gloom, that is completely in your head

For some reason, you can't take any remote constructive criticism. I hope you are not like this at work, genuinely

I agree to totally disagree with you rat. End of discussion
 
I agree to totally disagree with you rat. End of discussion

You are calling people making slight reservations moaners and "mags"

I mean, where do you start with that one.

They haven't been perfect and I am sure they would admit that themselves, as they are normal people who mistake, unlike you.
 
I assume you know some of them personally....and i'm sure if they go on like that with their fellow SAFC fans they will get just as much abuse and told to shut their gobs often enough. One of them might even be the 2 blokes i had a go at v Charlton for the constant constant whinging through the match :)
A lot of the Sunderland supporters I talk to away from the message board share many of the same concerns and reservations about the new owners that I've put forward on this thread. The blind optimism and love-in for the new owners seems to be more of a thing on here rather than being the opinion of the fanbase at large.
 
A lot of the Sunderland supporters I talk to away from the message board share many of the same concerns and reservations about the new owners that I've put forward on this thread. The blind optimism and love-in for the new owners seems to be more of a thing on here rather than being the opinion of the fanbase at large.

AGAIN what reservations??? absolutely pathetic man. Rome wasn't built in a day!! you and others like you are impatient, god forbid we don't go up this season because the utter hate that will pour from your mouths will be relentless
 
A lot of the Sunderland supporters I talk to away from the message board share many of the same concerns and reservations about the new owners that I've put forward on this thread. The blind optimism and love-in for the new owners seems to be more of a thing on here rather than being the opinion of the fanbase at large.
I tend to disagree Chris, the majority of supporters around me and others I know are cautiously optimistic the way things are going. I wouldn’t see it as “blind optimism “ as you refer to it. I am too long in the tooth and have seen this club disintegrate in front of me. We aren’t a big club, we are where we are and hopefully with players fit for purpose in this league. The management has addressed to a certain extent the obscene situation with players shafting us and stood up to them and we aren’t seen as a soft touch anymore and that has to be applauded. The reality is we are hopefully heading in the right direction and have bottomed out. I will know better at the end of the season and see better from there

AGAIN what reservations??? absolutely pathetic man. Rome wasn't built in a day!! you and others like you are impatient, god forbid we don't go up this season because the utter hate that will pour from your mouths will be relentless
FWIW I am quietly confident we will go up Gosforth , I have seen nothing to cause us majorly concern at the mo. I tend not to get carried away one way or the other results wise. It is all about a full season
 
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I tend to disagree Chris, the majority of supporters around me and others I know are cautiously optimistic the way things are going. I wouldn’t see it as “blind optimism “ as you refer to it. I am too long in the tooth and have seen this club disintegrate in front of me. We aren’t a big club, we are where we are and hopefully with players fit for purpose in this league. The management has addressed to a certain extent the obscene situation with players shafting us and stood up to them and we aren’t seen as a soft touch anymore and that has to be applauded. The reality is we are hopefully heading in the right direction and have bottomed out. I will know better at the end of the season and see better from there


FWIW I am quietly confident we will go up Gosforth , I have seen nothing to cause us majorly concern at the mo. I tend not to get carried away one way or the other results wise. It is all about a full season
You disagree, yet you also say these supporters are exercising caution. :confused:
 
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