Six games (hopefully) a litmus test of LJ’s credentials to manage SAFC going forward.


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Forgetting the salary cap that was still in play at that moment? It only stopped after the window had closed, no surprise we had to hunt around for the players you mentioned.
and from next year we are capped to 60 per cent of turnover on wages...we will soon find out the extent to which that is a reducion or increase on this year..but if its an increase, it wont be much..
 
and from next year we are capped to 60 per cent of turnover on wages...we will soon find out the extent to which that is a reducion or increase on this year..but if its an increase, it wont be much..
That depends on revenue, Charlie. Which at least in terms of season tickets will be more than you had when in charge last season, admittedly with Covid playing a part. Also there's a good few players out of contract. We'll see.
 
That depends on revenue, Charlie. Which at least in terms of season tickets will be more than you had when in charge last season, admittedly with Covid playing a part. Also there's a good few players out of contract. We'll see.
revenue wont be much higher but actually what migh help is the wembley cup win boosting turnover this year..
covid refunds-dont know how hey are viewed..if we oly get ST money MINUS those then we are fucked..
 
of course stats have to be seen in that context..also the context of..LJ had 300k and more o spend in january...parkinson didint.
Did Parky not have anything to spend? he also didnt play statistically the best creator of goals in the league? 300K isnt vast really is it?
 
Did Parky not have anything to spend? he also didnt play statistically the best creator of goals in the league? 300K isnt vast really is it?
300k isvast in this league...on one player..i dont think parky paid a fee for anyone but i stand to be corrected on that..
 
It has the hallmarks of the end of season under Ross. Johnson needs to find some momentum going into the play-offs and even if we don't win them, some momentum going into next season which may well prove to be difficult as there's expected to be large player turnover in the summer.

If we sleepwalk into the play-offs and perform similarly, KLD will have a big decision on his hands in the summer about whether he can keep Johnson.
 
How long do his streaks tend to last? Did the Bristol fans say? We've had the really good streak, then the shit streak - maybe we're due to go back to a good streak - the timing would be perfect for the playoffs.
 
It has the hallmarks of the end of season under Ross. Johnson needs to find some momentum going into the play-offs and even if we don't win them, some momentum going into next season which may well prove to be difficult as there's expected to be large player turnover in the summer.

If we sleepwalk into the play-offs and perform similarly, KLD will have a big decision on his hands in the summer about whether he can keep Johnson.
My feeling is they won’t replace him under any circumstances. After all the talk of consistency, building a philosophy across the club, long term approach etc it would send a very odd message to sack a manager after half a season and no chance to shape his squad. It would also reflect badly on those who chose him.

the worry is that we get to October and things haven’t improved then we are back to sacking someone in desperation and playing catch up once again.

let’s just hope we get promoted and we can all look forward to next season.
 
My feeling is they won’t replace him under any circumstances. After all the talk of consistency, building a philosophy across the club, long term approach etc it would send a very odd message to sack a manager after half a season and no chance to shape his squad. It would also reflect badly on those who chose him.

the worry is that we get to October and things haven’t improved then we are back to sacking someone in desperation and playing catch up once again.

let’s just hope we get promoted and we can all look forward to next season.

I think you are spot on. I think his job is safe, they've made too many noises about consistency and a new footballing structure that they'll not want to be seen as contradicting that.

It's a risk, as we could well write off another season in League One if he's not the right manager, but I think we may well rinse and repeat in October. I hope to be proved wrong, but I don't think he's the right man.
 
Forgetting the salary cap that was still in play at that moment? It only stopped after the window had closed, no surprise we had to hunt around for the players you mentioned.
We would heave been better giving our young lads a chance than buying the players we bought in January.

The young lads are further down the pecking order with more older journeyman plodders in front of them.
 
I think you are spot on. I think his job is safe, they've made too many noises about consistency and a new footballing structure that they'll not want to be seen as contradicting that.

It's a risk, as we could well write off another season in League One if he's not the right manager, but I think we may well rinse and repeat in October. I hope to be proved wrong, but I don't think he's the right man.
Remains to be seen obviously but I’m trying to think about their thought process as opposed to a supporter.

we are all angry and disappointed we missed out on top two, largely because it’s not the first time we have bottled it and we want out of this league so badly.

from their perspective I think Johnson could make a case that coming in and getting us into the play offs, winning a trophy, and going on a great run to trouble the top two with the squad he inherited.....losing his job would border on ridiculous. Especially when they said going up this season was not essential but we would aim for it. Hard to justify your approach if you bomb him out after spending the last six months presumably building the structures for the future with him.
 
There's definitely value in PPG.It shouldn't be dismissed. However, equally the dismissal of the fact that we were the 8th best team in league one when PP was fired and are now the 3rd best team in league one is a bit disingenuous. As with everything, there is no single stat or data point that can answer definitively what is going on. It has to be a combination of factors.
True, but then we were 5 points off second place with a game in hand when he was sacked and we're now 9 points off second without a game in hand. Like I say, I do agree that PPG isn't a perfect barometer, but league position can be very misleading as well. Injuries and Covid all genuine mitigating circumstances for Johnson mind, my argument isn't that he's awful and needs to go, merely that saying "he's got us third" doesn't necessarily mean he's doing better. For me, you'd review it at the end of the season. If we've limped over the line to get in the play offs and then been beaten then I'd say he's got a lot to prove going into next season.
 
True, but then we were 5 points off second place with a game in hand when he was sacked and we're now 9 points off second without a game in hand. Like I say, I do agree that PPG isn't a perfect barometer, but league position can be very misleading as well. Injuries and Covid all genuine mitigating circumstances for Johnson mind, my argument isn't that he's awful and needs to go, merely that saying "he's got us third" doesn't necessarily mean he's doing better. For me, you'd review it at the end of the season. If we've limped over the line to get in the play offs and then been beaten then I'd say he's got a lot to prove going into next season.

fine margins, just as in the last few games.

If he wins the play offs he will have done the job from an unlikely position and we will all be looking ahead to the championship under new ownership!

lose on penalties or with the last kick as Ross did and some will have written him off entirely before he’s even had a chance to build a side.

He needs to get us up by hook or by crook, not because the club will get rid of him but a certain section of our support will have the daggers out and they don’t tend to let stuff go.
 
I think you are spot on. I think his job is safe, they've made too many noises about consistency and a new footballing structure that they'll not want to be seen as contradicting that.

It's a risk, as we could well write off another season in League One if he's not the right manager, but I think we may well rinse and repeat in October. I hope to be proved wrong, but I don't think he's the right man.
I think it's a nailed on frigging certainty.
fine margins, just as in the last few games.

If he wins the play offs he will have done the job from an unlikely position and we will all be looking ahead to the championship under new ownership!

lose on penalties or with the last kick as Ross did and some will have written him off entirely before he’s even had a chance to build a side.

He needs to get us up by hook or by crook, not because the club will get rid of him but a certain section of our support will have the daggers out and they don’t tend to let stuff go.
My gut reaction after the play off final was to sack him there and then. We didn't. That turned out well.
 
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fine margins, just as in the last few games.

If he wins the play offs he will have done the job from an unlikely position and we will all be looking ahead to the championship under new ownership!

lose on penalties or with the last kick as Ross did and some will have written him off entirely before he’s even had a chance to build a side.

He needs to get us up by hook or by crook, not because the club will get rid of him but a certain section of our support will have the daggers out and they don’t tend to let stuff go.

They will anyway. Thats just some peoples nature.

There were fans "moaning" about Peter Reid in 1997, v Reading, and looked what followed
 
fine margins, just as in the last few games.

If he wins the play offs he will have done the job from an unlikely position and we will all be looking ahead to the championship under new ownership!

lose on penalties or with the last kick as Ross did and some will have written him off entirely before he’s even had a chance to build a side.

He needs to get us up by hook or by crook, not because the club will get rid of him but a certain section of our support will have the daggers out and they don’t tend to let stuff go.
Aye, you're right about fine margins like. I do think it's disappointing that we're not looking more of a cohesive unit, but if he gets it right when it matters and we go up then he's done well.

Like I say, I'm certainly not in the "sack him if we don't go up" camp but I do think he'll have a lot to prove. Will definitely be a pain in that there will be some who have their mind made up, ideally we'd be starting next season with fans back and all singing from the same hymn sheet. My main worry will be that, if he isn't the right man, it'll be yet another case of getting rid mid way through next season, then writing the rest of it off while saying he needs "his players" in. We can't keep writing seasons off. Not sure what the answer is though because I'd definitely keep Johnson. There's no point in trying to change the style, get consistency through the squad, and then immediately make a managerial change. Just f***ing hope he is the right man, and wish there were a few more reasons for confidence!
 
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