Short badly advised again


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This of course is a sensible post but appointing Mcinnes smacks of croneyism. I'd much rather have Schwartz, Jokanovic, Wagner or Stam.
Yeah I'd probably agree with that on the face of it. What I can say, though, is that McInnes isn't a bad candidate because of his lack of first hand SAFC knowledge. And if the decision making process on selecting the successful candidate is objective I don't mind a bit of limited croneyism in the selection of the shortlist
 
its just a right fit for the club, some managers just fall into the right spot but we have to wade through the shite to find him as they wont have a label on them to make it easier to spot them - most people on here thought Moyes would work, but look how wrong that was !
 
I know your right. He would not be my first choice but whoever comes in needs to look at the club as a whole and not just the first team, seeing the average age of the Ajax team really showed us up at just how badly we as a club (and most Premier League clubs at that) are ran and massive changes are needed.
I think that a lot of that 'whole club' remit will (and probably should) fall to Simon Wilson. The next manager should have a clear understanding of what he needs in the first team to succeed and strong organisational, tactical and motivational skills but I don't think he'll be expected to write the theme tune and sing the theme tune.
 
Let's face it, there's no guarantee whoever takes the job will be a success and ultimately our next manager will either be a huge success and piss off, or be a failure and be sacked. Either way it's unlikely our next manager will be here longer than four years at the most.
 
We should steer well clear of Scottish football when it come to recruitment, it's been finished for decades now.
 
Shorty is just killing time till he gets shot of the Albatross around his neck.
Get a manager in, any manager before the season starts and hopefully get some buyers (he hopes).
 
Let's face it, there's no guarantee whoever takes the job will be a success and ultimately our next manager will either be a huge success and piss off, or be a failure and be sacked. Either way it's unlikely our next manager will be here longer than four years at the most.

If a manager stays here 4 years he must've been hugely successful!
 
I think that a lot of that 'whole club' remit will (and probably should) fall to Simon Wilson. The next manager should have a clear understanding of what he needs in the first team to succeed and strong organisational, tactical and motivational skills but I don't think he'll be expected to write the theme tune and sing the theme tune.
This is where I think we go wrong big style and has probably been brought on because of our sheer desperate state we have been in for the last 5 years or so. I think a manager should come with his own team, ranging from Youth coaches, physios, first team coaches etc. This way, the club should know what they are expecting and straight away you are buying into that managers identity for your club. I realise it would br a massive gamble, especially if you end up with say Moyes who has been quite possibly the worst appointment known to man! but get it right and the foundations could be laid for years. You look at the mis-match of coaches and personnel last year and it does make you realise what a mess we are in. (WTF does Bracewell actually do for example?)
 
7th or 8th, don't be so belittling. It's all wishful thinking on your part. It would suit you if we are in the championship for years to come. We'll be back up next season.
For my part you couldn't be more wrong, and elsewhere on this forum you'll find posts to that effect.
 
It just shows once more how the man has absolutely no business running a football club.

What on earth possessed this bloke to buy Sunderland
 
This is where I think we go wrong big style and has probably been brought on because of our sheer desperate state we have been in for the last 5 years or so. I think a manager should come with his own team, ranging from Youth coaches, physios, first team coaches etc. This way, the club should know what they are expecting and straight away you are buying into that managers identity for your club. I realise it would br a massive gamble, especially if you end up with say Moyes who has been quite possibly the worst appointment known to man! but get it right and the foundations could be laid for years. You look at the mis-match of coaches and personnel last year and it does make you realise what a mess we are in. (WTF does Bracewell actually do for example?)
I just see that as a pipe dream - for any club regardless of stature. With managerial tenures being better measured in months rather than years it's impractical to give that sort of power to someone who won't be here in a couple of years. Things like identity, youth activity, scouting and sports science need to be owned by the club imo. Now that will mean that we will have limits placed upon us with regards to managerial candidates but there's a big world out there beyond here shores - and none of those fuckers expect (or even want) that level of autonomy. The era of the all powerful manager is over. We need to accept it, commit fully to the new ways (something we're yet to do) and get on with things.
 
You would have thought he would have learnt by now but if the media is correct and we are after Aberdeen boss Derek McInnes because of a recommendation by Walter Smith.
Why would we be even considering anyone suggested by Walter Smith? Does he know anything about Sunderland or even the Championship?
Sunderland is a unique club and it will destroy the wrong Manager. It needs a Manager who understands the Club and has a link with it's history.
Derek McInnes, taking his Scottish jobs aside has been very poor. Slumps of form at Bristol City, 7 consecutive defeats. Appointing him will be one of Short's biggest ill advised disasters.
Can we drop the Scottish connection, thinking that anyone who has done well in Scotland brings any credit.
Jackie McNamara did well at Patick taking them to a Cup Final, at Dundee Utd he also got them to a cup final. At York he was a disaster, taking them into Non League where they are still struggling to recover now.
Success in Scotland should be taking with a pinch of salt.
We are not a " unique club", ffs how Magesque.

We don't however need advice from Walter Smith, I will agree with you on that one.
 
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