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He repeated the law back to the interviewer so aye he does know. He was saying in the real world its not handball, its a bag of shit. Good interview I thought.

But he was saying he had no idea there was a risk of it being disallowed. Surely if its hit you on the arm you know its not going to stand.
 
But if it wasn’t for VAR the ref would have missed it and the goal would have been given

Exactly this. The two reasons that goal got disallowed were the stupid rule, and the fact we have VAR.

People saying VAR wasn't to blame there are somewhat missing the point.
Moyes doesn't know the rule.
 
As of this year, its hand ball if:

"A player gains control/possession of the ball after it has touches their hand/arm and then scores, or creates a goal-scoring opportunity"

So, nowt to do with VAR.

It has everything to do with VAR. Yes it's the rule now but these types of infringements are so minimal that only VAR sees them. Same with the offside rule. VAR allows us to apply the rule correctly by stopping the game for 5 minutes to project a line across a player's toe. It's the worst thing that had happened to the game in my lifetime.

But fans have made their bed with all their whinging and abuse of refs. Now they have to lie in it.
 
It has everything to do with VAR. Yes it's the rule now but these types of infringements are so minimal that only VAR sees them. Same with the offside rule. VAR allows us to apply the rule correctly by stopping the game for 5 minutes to project a line across a player's toe. It's the worst thing that had happened to the game in my lifetime.

But fans have made their bed with all their whinging and abuse of refs. Now they have to lie in it.
Like cricket - VAR will evolve over time - hopefully.
 
Not the point. The laws were changed so that a goal can't be scored if there's been a handball in the move that led to it, whether accidental or not. Simple as that - once the ball hit his hand, it was always going to be disallowed.
Even Moyes in his interview is moaning about it being a "good goal" and blaming VAR for disallowing it even after the interviewer pointed out the above! :lol::lol:
 
Nothing to do with VAR. They correctly applied the new handball law.
Its not quite right to say its nothing to do with var. It's a new rule which I guess pretty much every such similar incident as to what happened tonight is not being picked up by the ref. Var is highlighting what a terrible rule it is. Saying it's nothing to do with var is wrong imo.
 
I know exactly why the rule has come into force. Fans have been beefing for years about 'how come that's a handball, when that one 3 weeks ago wasnt', 'refs are so inconsistent' etc etc. So as a fail safe the authorities have chucked the towel in on this one and just said if it hits a hand and leads to a goal it's a handball. No more worries about 'consistency', everyone knows where they stand.

I had a feeling that this law would be extended to all handball. This is what a lot of fans wanted.

I don't blame them for bringing this rule. If you want consistency, there you f***ing have it!
 
I know exactly why the rule has come into force. Fans have been beefing for years about 'how come that's a handball, when that one 3 weeks ago wasnt', 'refs are so inconsistent' etc etc. So as a fail safe the authorities have chucked the towel in on this one and just said if it hits a hand and leads to a goal it's a handball. No more worries about 'consistency', everyone knows where they stand.

I had a feeling that this law would be extended to all handball. This is what a lot of fans wanted.

I don't blame them for bringing this rule. If you want consistency, there you f***ing have it!

The problem is it isnt consistent - Dele Alli hand balled it in the box against us and we weren't given a penalty.

The Van Dijk one recently

They have completely fucked this season up.

Just scrap it now, void whoever ends up winning the league and do play offs for who goes down at the bottom.
 
Like cricket - VAR will evolve over time - hopefully.

I don't want it in any form. I honestly couldn't care less if refs make the odd mistake, they are human. You benefit from some mistakes, you lose out to others, that's football. But VAR is here to stay unfortunately. Just hope it gets restricted to top level football.
 
The problem is it isnt consistent - Dele Alli hand balled it in the box against us and we weren't given a penalty.

The Van Dijk one recently

They have completely fucked this season up.

Just scrap it now, void whoever ends up winning the league and do play offs for who goes down at the bottom.

You do realise that whatever law you introduce, however it's worded, you will never have consistency. It is complete fantasy to think that there will ever be a handball rule which will categorically reduce all decisions to a yes it was or no it wasn't. The only way to achieve this would be to have a strict handball rule where any contact with the hand is handball and nobody wants this.
 
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