Self Driving Lorries

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There is a chance of that but self driving tech is here to stay. To just ignore it is foolish. There's an opportunity for us to take the lead but we're sitting watching the yanks take total control.
Oh yes, that I don't disagree with. We already have live testing going on down on Greenwich peninsula. We are very good at cutting edge niche tech to be fair. The government for some reason choose not to invest in it however.
 


This bit was nonsense

Far better to put the research and funds into more economic engines, replacing fossil fuels, encouraging people not to travel at all (i.e. Working from home etc) and improving / building more railways.

Self driving vehicles are already a reality. Google have racked up over 30 million miles. Tesla over 100. They are already safer than humans. We're being left behind - again. And we're more than capable if researching clean engine tech and self driving vehicles. Tesla are doing both by themselves.
Ah, are you the poster that was earlier posting how machines are going to take over etc?
 
Imagine if the system fails like tills going down in a shop or bank systems failing and you can't use your cards.



They have failed though, that is my point.
Exactly. But not as often as humans. Just had a news alert 2 mins ago about deaths on the M1 involving lorries actually.

And btw you will never know how much money and regulation goes into banks mitigating IT failure risk. It's my job. Google rbs and see how much they got fined last time.
 
It's not the fuel, it's the wages.
How is there a wages saving if their are still 3 Drivers?

Speaking as a lorry driver i think it has good and bad points. I don't think it is suitable in this country however.
The thing that worries me is the potential for disaster with the technology. It's always good till it fails.
A couple of weeks ago my harley cut out going round the antwerp ring road while i was overtaking in busy traffic. That was a glitch in the fly by wire throttle that fucked the evu up.
Imagine that happening with over a hundred tonnes of wagon.
Look at me I've got a Harley. Kawasaki fart box not good enough? Pathetic.:)
 
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Get them tested in rush hour and see how the software responds to idiots cutting inbetween the lorries as they need to be off at the next junction.
 
I watch the road and have human anticipation of what the human drivers ahead might do. I watch the road as far as I can ahead to anticipate. Computers can't do that and react (very quickly) to information form the next vehicle along in the convoy.

You can watch in one direction at a time and can be distracted and need to divert your attention at times.

Self driving cars have near continuous 360 degree 'vision' and don't get distracted like humans. The machine learning process they've been going through in the millions of miles of training they've been doing is giving them the anticipation they need. There learning will grow exponentially as more and more drives are undertaken. And they will learn from each other.
 
Exactly. But not as often as humans. Just had a news alert 2 mins ago about deaths on the M1 involving lorries actually.

And btw you will never know how much money and regulation goes into banks mitigating IT failure risk. It's my job. Google rbs and see how much they got fined last time.

Plenty people have died to get to where we are today with technology and flight.

The same will probably happen till we get to a certain level regarding self driving vehicles, but I suppose you'd happily die for the safety of future generations. ;)
 
You can watch in one direction at a time and can be distracted and need to divert your attention at times.

Self driving cars have near continuous 360 degree 'vision' and don't get distracted like humans. The machine learning process they've been going through in the millions of miles of training they've been doing is giving them the anticipation they need. There learning will grow exponentially as more and more drives are undertaken. And they will learn from each other.
I can't seem to find it but there was a swarm drone test by the US military and a newspaper had the radar video sequence where they all interacted with each other etc. Was quite something.
 
But if an assumption surely?? You probably don't know which posters also work in IT Compliance for global banks.
An educated guess given what Joe had written about It disaster recovery. :)

Plenty people have died to get to where we are today with technology and flight.

The same will probably happen till we get to a certain level regarding self driving vehicles, but I suppose you'd happily die for the safety of future generations. ;)
What??
 
Tend not to be as many tubes directly in front or behind within a few feet though.... unless I've been on different flights to you?

As I wrote, such technology had its place... just not here.
I disagree, with some much telemetry available from self driving vehicles, software should be far more reliable than humans. Yes, it may fail from time to time, but bugs will be fixed whereas humans will continue to crash.

I take over. But cruise control' system only function is to keep a constant speed. It would drive the car over a cliff if not stopped. I'd be really disappointed to see a computer that drives a truck in busy traffic, most of which isnhiman controlled, and makes stop/go decisions. I think it's a dreadful decision.

I watch the road and have human anticipation of what the human drivers ahead might do. I watch the road as far as I can ahead to anticipate. Computers can't do that and react (very quickly) to information form the next vehicle along in the convoy.
Yes they can, please read up on Tesla, their software is twice as safe compared to a human.
 
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Lorry drivers watching films, doing paperwork while driving

Lorry driver watching porn kills driver of broken down car

Lorry driver on two phones at once

Lorry driver typing on his phone doesn't see a tractor and ploughs into the back of it

Lorry driver watching Youtube on tablet balanced on his dash
. Article also references the lorry driver who got 10 years for killing a woman and her three kids because he was too busy scrolling through music on his phone to watch the road and had 'he barely looked at the road for almost a kilometre'.

Just a 20 second cursory googling. The question isn't 'can all risk be avoided' with driverless lorries, it's 'can the risk be as low as with humans, if not lower'. Doesn't seem like a terribly high bar to me.
 
Lorry drivers watching films, doing paperwork while driving

Lorry driver watching porn kills driver of broken down car

Lorry driver on two phones at once

Lorry driver typing on his phone doesn't see a tractor and ploughs into the back of it

Lorry driver watching Youtube on tablet balanced on his dash
. Article also references the lorry driver who got 10 years for killing a woman and her three kids because he was too busy scrolling through music on his phone to watch the road and had 'he barely looked at the road for almost a kilometre'.

Just a 20 second cursory googling. The question isn't 'can all risk be avoided' with driverless lorries, it's 'can the risk be as low as with humans, if not lower'. Doesn't seem like a terribly high bar to me.

Any lorry driver caught doing that should lose their license for ten years

The company that they work for or are contracted to work for, should be fined hundreds of thousands of pounds

Fuck it, no mercy, just ban any lorry driver who is on the phone whilst driving a massive vehicle at 60mph

I'd also ban them from overtaking but that's a personal gripe :lol:
 
Any lorry driver caught doing that should lose their license for ten years

The company that they work for or are contracted to work for, should be fined hundreds of thousands of pounds

Fuck it, no mercy, just ban any lorry driver who is on the phone whilst driving a massive vehicle at 60mph

I'd also ban them from overtaking but that's a personal gripe :lol:

Most ridiculous thing I've read on here for sometime.
 
Most ridiculous thing I've read on here for sometime.

They're clearly not capable of training their drivers and should be held accountable.

They'll soon put in place measures to make sure their drivers aren't using phones at the wheel.

I don't give a fuck if you think it's ridiculous. I don't want to hear about any more families being torn apart by negligent lorry drivers who clearly aren't being trained properly.

Imagine thinking it's ridiculous to fine a company whose employees are caught breaking the law because the company hasn't trained them properly.

The only way to hit these companies is in the pocket. Your drivers using their phone? Here's a lovely fine. Don't let it happen again.

Have a think about it
 
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They're clearly not capable of training their drivers and should be held accountable.

They'll soon put in place measures to make sure their drivers aren't using phones at the wheel.

I don't give a fuck if you think it's ridiculous. I don't want to hear about any more families being torn apart by negligent lorry drivers who clearly aren't being trained properly.

Imagine thinking it's ridiculous to fine a company whose employees are caught breaking the law because the company hasn't trained them properly.

The only way to hit these companies is in the pocket. Your drivers using their phone? Here's a lovely fine. Don't let it happen again.

Have a think about it

Sorry, I meant it from driver negligence.

You can train people to the highest possible standards but you can't account for stupidity.
 
Sorry, I meant it from driver negligence.

You can train people to the highest possible standards but you can't account for stupidity.

You're absolutely right like but I just feel that haulage companies need to have some accountability for the deaths their drivers cause on a regular basis
 
I disagree, with some much telemetry available from self driving vehicles, software should be far more reliable than humans. Yes, it may fail from time to time, but bugs will be fixed whereas humans will continue to crash.


Yes they can, please read up on Tesla, their software is twice as safe compared to a human.

Sorry, I meant to type "past the next vehicle along". My earlier post doesn't make sense as I typed it.
 
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